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    lin dan will retire first and then LCW....most of china player retires when reach 30s...like zhao jianhua, wu wenkai, xia xuanxe...

    actually,malaysian players retire when reach 30++ like rashid sidek 32, roslin 34, ong ewe hock 31...
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    Arrow Lin Dan will retire soon

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzroll View Post
    lin dan will retire first and then LCW....most of china player retires when reach 30s...like zhao jianhua, wu wenkai, xia xuanxe...

    actually,malaysian players retire when reach 30++ like rashid sidek 32, roslin 34, ong ewe hock 31...
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    Agree. It's also because that;

    * CHN players usually start training at a younger age. By the time they are 30, they could have 20 years of hard training already. Their bodies could have had enough of it.

    * CHN backup players are always good enough and ready to replace their top players. Top players can retire earlier without worrying that their team would drop in standard drastically.
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    So.... there is hope... deng3...

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    Lin Dan has been pacing himself very carefully over the past 2-odd years. This is in part due to LYB and his strategies, but the result is that LD has been able to extend his timespan of active play, and also achieve peak form more often (due to more selective participation in tourneys.) I think its entirely possible he will be around for another 2-3 years. But there will always be other factors outside the purely physical and game-related ones, that can dictate when a player retires.

    OTOH, LCW has been pushed to feature in almost every tournament possible, for the past so many years. In part due to sponsorship commitments, but more because he is unfortunately the only realistic world-class singles player representing Malaysia in the past few years. Unfortunately, that situation does not look like its going to change in a hurry. So the toll on his body (and mind) is far more than what LD would be experiencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    Lin Dan has been pacing himself very carefully over the past 2-odd years. This is in part due to LYB and his strategies, but the result is that LD has been able to extend his timespan of active play, and also achieve peak form more often (due to more selective participation in tourneys.) I think its entirely possible he will be around for another 2-3 years. But there will always be other factors outside the purely physical and game-related ones, that can dictate when a player retires.

    OTOH, LCW has been pushed to feature in almost every tournament possible, for the past so many years. In part due to sponsorship commitments, but more because he is unfortunately the only realistic world-class singles player representing Malaysia in the past few years. Unfortunately, that situation does not look like its going to change in a hurry. So the toll on his body (and mind) is far more than what LD would be experiencing.
    I agree with this very much.
    LD may still have the physical condition due to selective participation, but mentally the motivation to train as hard as before etc... and take the time to train instead of enjoying the good life that many sponsorships bring in will be very hard to raise.
    It's all about how he mentally adjusts to this... and his willpower to keep going or just say "I've achieved enough".

    Unfortunately the conditions for LCW means that he has to participate in so many tournaments... not just for himself but for Yonex especially.... So many times he would've been better off with rest, but has been forced to participate....
    To do that continuously day in and day out will eventually take it's toll one day.... especially with so much media and fan pressure on his every move also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Agree. It's also because that;

    * CHN players usually start training at a younger age. By the time they are 30, they could have 20 years of hard training already. Their bodies could have had enough of it.

    * CHN backup players are always good enough and ready to replace their top players. Top players can retire earlier without worrying that their team would drop in standard drastically.
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    For a second I thought you were talking about INA team, well i realised its not the case anymore

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    Arrow I thought you were talking about INA team

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    For a second I thought you were talking about INA team, well i realised its not the case anymore
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    I was replying to jazzroll's post (Post #52).
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    Maybe we could do another comparison of who will retire first between peter gade and taufik hidayat? or maybe this 2 names can be added to the thread's title?

    what u guys think?

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    Arrow I think that all 4 will all retire at the same time at the 2012 London Olympic Games

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    Maybe we could do another comparison of who will retire first between peter gade and taufik hidayat? or maybe this 2 names can be added to the thread's title?

    what u guys think?
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    I think that all 4 (LCW, LD, TH and PG) will all retire at the same time at the 2012 London Olympic Games.

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    You might be corrrect or you might be wrong

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    oh oh... you don't want to bring in the indonesian and danish fans in here.... lol.

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    Default Don't want to bring in the indonesian and danish fans in here

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    oh oh... you don't want to bring in the indonesian and danish fans in here.... lol.
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    I am already here. I am a fan of both Denmark and Indonesia as well.
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    you are down under mate; and your heart is closer to malaysia. lol

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    If 4 of them are to retire after the OG London, then we might have a new era of badminton in men's singles

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    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    If 4 of them are to retire after the OG London, then we might have a new era of badminton in men's singles
    If that happens, we will be left with a gaping hole in internatinal badminton. I'd rather not think about that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    If 4 of them are to retire after the OG London, then we might have a new era of badminton in men's singles
    ...and I don't think it would be exciting, esp if no MAS players. How would bcers members kill time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by volcom View Post
    Hmm did LCW win the Chinese Taipei open before?
    I can only remember when he lost to LD in 06 and to Taufik in 08.
    off topic (replying here because the other thread is now locked):
    ..ya, LCW won the CHN TPE Open before (some 6 yrs back). But we were referring to a SS-level tourney and one which is held in mainland China.

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