mak hee chun/tan wee kiong

**eaglehelang** · 11-16-2010, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by danielwong

Allow me to bring up an old issue. Back in 2009 I think I ever
comment about Mak/Tan wearing earring on the court during
National GP final. I have nothing against them but I mentioned,
if you wanna be stylish, you can, but win some titles first, but
not now. Your mind should think of badminton only not about being
stylish and presentable on court. If your mind think of something else,
the result would not be great.
Of coz I received a lot of bashing back then. Saying I am unreasonable
and out of my mind. Now we can see the quality of players we have.

KKK wearing earings doesnt effect his performance, he already wear earing before he won the AG, AE. My main pt (as was some other non Msian members) wear or not wear earing does not effect their performance, the non earing wearing ones also results not good.

If you feel that way, then problem, Goh Wei Shem & another one or two MD also wear earing, lol.

**limsy** · 11-17-2010, 12:32 AM

Originally Posted by jasonmarc

Did i said anything wrong about them...............The answer is 'No'...Sad for MAS.

u forget a few words
never win in AG 2010
haha

**limsy** · 11-17-2010, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

If you feel that way, then problem, Goh Wei Shem & another one or two MD also wear earing, lol.

lww also have mah
btw
both goh also wearing earring
haha

**jasonmarc** · 11-17-2010, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

KKK wearing earings doesnt effect his performance, he already wear earing before he won the AG, AE. My main pt (as was some other non Msian members) wear or not wear earing does not effect their performance, the non earing wearing ones also results not good.

If you feel that way, then problem, Goh Wei Shem & another one or two MD also wear earing, lol.

I think what Daniel trying to express was to try hard and concentrate for the results first before wanted to have 'gaya' on court !!

**pBmMalaysia** · 11-17-2010, 01:11 AM

Originally Posted by danielwong

Allow me to bring up an old issue. Back in 2009 I think I ever
comment about Mak/Tan wearing earring on the court during
National GP final. I have nothing against them but I mentioned,
if you wanna be stylish, you can, but win some titles first, but
not now. Your mind should think of badminton only not about being
stylish and presentable on court. If your mind think of something else,
the result would not be great.
Of coz I received a lot of bashing back then. Saying I am unreasonable
and out of my mind. Now we can see the quality of players we have.

i wonder who bashed you way back..lol

actually this is important it just show their mindset.

if we take a look psychologically these guys doesn't have full confidence in themselves yet,

that's why they want to follow their idols or some trend....

why can't they be themselves and make themselves for others to follow?

**limsy** · 11-17-2010, 01:18 AM

in psychology
not all of them are lack of confident
some might feeling good about themself and try to express in public on how well they are
in psychology there is no =
one plus one doesn't 100% equal to 2
hence wearing earring doesn't = lack of confident

**danielwong** · 11-17-2010, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

KKK wearing earings doesnt effect his performance, he already wear earing before he won the AG, AE. My main pt (as was some other non Msian members) wear or not wear earing does not effect their performance, the non earing wearing ones also results not good.

If you feel that way, then problem, Goh Wei Shem & another one or two MD also wear earing, lol.

Originally Posted by jasonmarc

I think what Daniel trying to express was to try hard and concentrate for the results first before wanted to have 'gaya' on court !!

The above 2 posts shows one understand what I wanna say and another doesn't catch the ball at all....or pretend not to understand. While another redundant comment, I will treat as ignore..
If pbm love to read further pls check the National GP thread. I rest my case on this issue.

**eaglehelang** · 11-17-2010, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

lww also have mah
btw
both goh also wearing earring
haha

LWW??? You mean uncle Lee Wan Wah in his younger days? Yes I know, Goh Wei Shem & Goh Han Jiao.

Originally Posted by jasonmarc

I think what Daniel trying to express was to try hard and concentrate for the results first before wanted to have 'gaya' on court !!

Having 'gaya' on court does not mean they not trying hard. It does not equate lack of discipline like what Daniel expressed during National GP.

**eaglehelang** · 11-17-2010, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by jasonmarc

any other but not this one, I never concur with the idea to send Mak/Tan...........

Many of us didnt agree when Mak/TWK got selected but we are not the coaches. All the while I didnt agree to Mak partnering TWK, am waiting for them to change partner

**pBmMalaysia** · 11-17-2010, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by limsy

in psychology
not all of them are lack of confident
some might feeling good about themself and try to express in public on how well they are
in psychology there is no =
one plus one doesn't 100% equal to 2
hence wearing earring doesn't = lack of confident

of course wearing earrings doesn't effect their performance

unless they are wearing a dumb bell!

you mentioned feeling good expression,

exactly what i mean

if they are feeling good about themselves,

express it to their trainers and country by displaying their skills and trash their opponents.

these players are supposed to concentrate and focus on winning

not just training like the back up anymore.

i see these two players have potential

huge potential, otherwise tkh would not bet on them

but they must know how to give 100% commitment

including giving up socializing etc etc

just be themselves, they are who they are.

**undeadshot** · 11-17-2010, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

LWW??? You mean uncle Lee Wan Wah in his younger days? Yes I know, Goh Wei Shem & Goh Han Jiao.

Having 'gaya' on court does not mean they not trying hard. It does not equate lack of discipline like what Daniel expressed during National GP.

I agree with danielwong that they should not wear earrings but for me it's purely for maintaining discipline in the squad, like how boys are not allowed to wear them in school,

nothing to do with performance. But Daniel wants to rest it, well, let's not talk about it any longer.
But I definitely agree with you that it does not mean lack of discipline, but in school if the top male student wears earrings it does not mean that he doesn't want to study, but it is still not allowed.

**danielwong** · 11-17-2010, 04:45 AM

If have no proof to prove whether Mak/Tan try hard or not and I won't goreng this issue. Of coz I don't need to mention the ring issue again as mentioned. But just see their results so far and see how good they are.

**limsy** · 11-17-2010, 09:44 AM

wearing a tidy uniform doesnt mean u are good student
simple

**pBmMalaysia** · 11-17-2010, 10:13 AM

true, wearing tidy uniform doesn't mean a good student

but majority of them wearing tidy uniform are good students.

i see them everyday for the past 7 years lol

**danielwong** · 11-17-2010, 06:52 PM

Thursday November 18, 2010

The Star

Kim Her takes blame for poor show

A VISIBLY disappointed national back-up squad doubles coach Tan Kim Her has taken responsibility for the toothless defeats of Mak Hee Chun-Tan Wee Kiong.
And he has vowed to turn the young pair into gutsy fighters.
On Tuesday, the duo hardly gave a fight in the 17-21, 6-21 defeat by Japanese Endo Hiroyuki-Kenichi Hayakawa in the opening round.
Kim Her admitted that he had over-rated his players.
“I am very disappointed with Mak and Tan. They did not fight all the way. They gave up too easily,” said Kim Her.
“It was their first Asian Games and, to me, it was not so much about winning or losing but it was all about the spirit and determinatino to fight until the end.
“They have to realise that the hopes of the whole nation were on them.
“I thought they were ready for the big stage but, in reality, a lot more work is needed to develop them. I will give a report on their below-par performances to the BAM (Badminton Association of Malaysia) and I am ready to take the rap for it.”

**jasonmarc** · 11-17-2010, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by danielwong

Thursday November 18, 2010

The Star

Kim Her takes blame for poor show

A VISIBLY disappointed national back-up squad doubles coach Tan Kim Her has taken responsibility for the toothless defeats of Mak Hee Chun-Tan Wee Kiong.
And he has vowed to turn the young pair into gutsy fighters.
On Tuesday, the duo hardly gave a fight in the 17-21, 6-21 defeat by Japanese Endo Hiroyuki-Kenichi Hayakawa in the opening round.
Kim Her admitted that he had over-rated his players.
“I am very disappointed with Mak and Tan. They did not fight all the way. They gave up too easily,” said Kim Her.
“It was their first Asian Games and, to me, it was not so much about winning or losing but it was all about the spirit and determinatino to fight until the end.
“They have to realise that the hopes of the whole nation were on them.
“I thought they were ready for the big stage but, in reality, a lot more work is needed to develop them. I will give a report on their below-par performances to the BAM (Badminton Association of Malaysia) and I am ready to take the rap for it.”

I think TKH was fooled by their 'famous' win over WR1 few months ago...LOL