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    Default Taking badminton seriously

    I have an obsession with my age, in that I see players who are both younger and better than me.

    I reckon once you're past a certain age, there comes a point of no return. Either you'll take the path of a seriously good player or relax into mediocrity.

    Who agrees? Is it ever too late to start really going for glory?

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    Well, according to your profile, you're only 17. I think a good age to start badminton would be 11-12. I started when I was 7-8 years old and those first like 5 years were wasted because I was never mature, I never focused on my play, I never had the strenght to develop some skill etc. At age 11-12 it is the start to a "new level" where you begin to develop strenght, you have common sense.

    I'd say it is hard to start badminton when your past 40 years old. You're getting pretty weak and all whereas someone who started from 11-12 and played till their 60 consistantly will continue to be good.

    Just my point of view on it.

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    Default Re: Taking badminton seriously

    Originally posted by Aleik
    I have an obsession with my age, in that I see players who are both younger and better than me.

    I reckon once you're past a certain age, there comes a point of no return. Either you'll take the path of a seriously good player or relax into mediocrity.

    Who agrees? Is it ever too late to start really going for glory?
    I dont think ur too late to start! I personally started 17 as well. Well I'm not exactly "good" but I've progressed slightly since a yr n a half ago, my skills HAVE actually developed somewut

    I'm not to the point where I can win anything in tourneys yet, but I think if I had a few months of solid play then I can do "not so badly" in tourneys.

    However, the results may varies from person to person, but it all depends on how "serious" you are at learning the skills

    Cheers!

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    What is all this about age????

    You are never too old to learn and that includes sports. What might be considered too late is a career.

    I have seen folks as old as 45 yrs picking up the game. Sure they have never played the game but they have played other sports and the hand to eye coordination is there (just the timing is off).

    If you aspire to be a top International player, well, that's a different story as you will have to catch up and unless you are extremely talented and focused, there is no way you can do so even with the best coaching available.

    The trick to anything is to develop plans and goals. Focus on achieveable goals, e.g. within a year - to make the school team, etc.

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    At age 17 you should pick up the game real fast. If you find a club for the summer or something and get lessons, you should be decent by the end of that summer and from then on is just pretty slow.

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    I knew a guy who started badminton at 17.

    Later he became so good, he got to the 3rd round(I think) of the All England back in the 80's in the men's doubles. Of course, many other people don't get that far (like me )

    At that same period, I knew of a man who only took the game up in his early thirties. He got a coach (who I believe is now part of the England setup). I heard that player ended up playing for Surrey 2nd team in England. No mean feat.

    I think there is also a player in the Kent 2nd team who got coaching in the last couple of years to make it to that level.

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    How good do you want to be?
    The best in the world?
    The best in England?
    The best in your county?

    Darren Hall was still winning singles at the English Nationals aged 27 (I think - in 1995)

    10 years should be plenty of time to improve your game
    If you really really want it, you can do it.

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    Originally posted by Neil Nicholls
    10 years should be plenty of time to improve your game
    If you really really want it, you can do it.
    That is the real big part of this. If you want to get real decent by some time you have to really try and put the extra effort into every practice. I always slack off :/

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    is there a limit to how good you get at badminton, and how are you suppose to know
    how hard are you playing is enough to get better???

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    Originally posted by AzNbOi2747
    is there a limit to how good you get at badminton, and how are you suppose to know
    how hard are you playing is enough to get better???
    Play, practive, rest(while you let the strokes sink in, and meanwhile watch some games to gain strategic improvement)

    I heard the best way to improve is to watch games(between skillful players) watch their movement, strokes etc, then try it out yourself... In fact, I used to do this for a while (inbetween games at rec centers)

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    AzNbOi2747:

    I think you made my point better than I did. I was trying to relate to potential. What I meant to say was, is there a relation to how good you can become with how early you start?

    Possibly there are some acquired skills learnt best when you are very young, i.e. when you are most receptive in learning terms.

    I've been playing long enough to know how the game should be played, but there are some advanced skills I just can't grasp, perhaps down to annoying habits developed over time, or perhaps because I wasn't taught correctly at an earlier age. Does anyone agree?

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    Originally posted by Aleik


    I think you made my point better than I did. I was trying to relate to potential. What I meant to say was, is there a relation to how good you can become with how early you start?

    Possibly there are some acquired skills learnt best when you are very young, i.e. when you are most receptive in learning terms.

    I can understand ur concern, sure, the earlier, the better. I mean, around age 10 to me, is the perfect age to start to participate in sports.

    However, agree with most of previous posts, it really depend on u. Badminton is not as same as gymnastics or figure skating, once u tried to start after 17, u might find it will be almost impossible to achieve higher level due to body structure. It's true that 17 might be late to bring u up to be a world champ within 2 yrs or so, but if u just keep trying, i am sure u will enjoy it and achieve certain satifaction later on.

    There's nothing impossible in the world, and success comes from the combination of various factors. Age surely applies, but other factors, such as physcial (agility, height, stength, stamina, etc), mental (determination, willingness to train, to fight, to win, etc) all play key roles as well.

    My suggestion is, just don't put too much energy on worrying about whether ur "protential" is high enough or not, but just put ur efforts in practice/training. Things can be changed with 180' around later on if ur career, overthinking is pointless and useless. Plan ahead is surely good, but no matter how well thought a plan is, ur need hard work to try to apply it.

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    so when did you guys started playing badminton and how old are you right now???
    would you say you improved alot???

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    AzNbOi2747:

    You seem to have the same sort of questions that I have, and lots of them; we've only recently signed up. I can see that you are keen to learn the sport rapidly, which is always good. I started playing for fun a few years ago, only now it has gone up one gear. Recent local competitions have made me more knowledgeable and more aware of how to play; it has really spurned my game on.

    I turned down coaching when I was thirteen, and I've regretted that, plus a two year abscence from playing, ever since. This is why I have so many queries about potential and whether I am too late to re-start.

    The thing is, I wasn't keen on playing different people then, because I was too shy. Now things are different, I try to play wherever and whenever I can. The question you have to ask yourself is, how good do you want to get? What will you get out of realising your potential, if you do?

    By all means go at the sport full tilt, but only if it means you keep lovin' it

    + cheers LazyBuddy
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    Originally posted by AzNbOi2747
    so when did you guys started playing badminton and how old are you right now???
    would you say you improved alot???

    The first time I step on a court when I was 13, and now it's my 11th year of badminton. However, due to various reasons, I stopped playing for a period of 4 yrs (major during high school time). When I came back to pick up the sport again, I found out that almost all my skills (well, not a lot compare to a lot of others) were gone. Therefore, I need to work extra harder to fight my way back. Even though, without a coach, I was lucky enough to meet some nice ppl who always encourage me and willing to show me some hints here and there.

    Now, well, I am still far away from being a pro, and never raise a trophy in any regional tournaments. However, I think I improved a lot - not only skill / game vise, but also in physcial strength (healthy), mental (dedication, determination, willing to learn/try, etc), and many other fields (hmmm... such as how to string? how to drive in rain/snow??? )

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    Originally posted by LazyBuddy
    The first time I step on a court when I was 13, and now it's my 11th year of badminton. However, due to various reasons, I stopped playing for a period of 4 yrs (major during high school time). When I came back to pick up the sport again, I found out that almost all my skills (well, not a lot compare to a lot of others) were gone. Therefore, I need to work extra harder to fight my way back. Even though, without a coach, I was lucky enough to meet some nice ppl who always encourage me and willing to show me some hints here and there.

    Now, well, I am still far away from being a pro, and never raise a trophy in any regional tournaments. However, I think I improved a lot - not only skill / game vise, but also in physcial strength (healthy), mental (dedication, determination, willing to learn/try, etc), and many other fields (hmmm... such as how to string? how to drive in rain/snow??? )
    wow you started when your 13, im 14 and i only been playing for a few months
    and 11 years of playing is a long time i feel sorry for you that you coudlnt
    play in your high school years... i believe that you can improve alot during that time... i think after high school i wont be able to play because theres too much to do... but hopefully i wont get bored of badmitnon and keep on playing... i see that you dont get alot of time to play in your high school years... how come??? i go to the club almost everyday and i am still able to have a good gpa

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    Originally posted by AzNbOi2747
    i think after high school i wont be able to play because theres too much to do...

    i see that you dont get alot of time to play in your high school years... how come??? i go to the club almost everyday and i am still able to have a good gpa
    1. I played about 10-12 hrs/wk during college yrs, and about 10-15 now, even though I am working full time. hehehehhehe... no wonder ppl say I got no life besides baddy..

    2. Well, the reason is very complicated. The 2 major ones were

    2.1 $$$: my family was facing serious financial problem @ that time + NY public school always don't have enough $$$ to support various of sports.

    2.2 Almost no one though I could play. The so-call coaches just looked at me (short and fat), and just kicked me out of try outs right there, even without gave me a chance to swing a racket.

    2.3 GPA was not an issue to me... hehehehee... when I grad. from my high school, I got the highest gpa there... so... no, not this one...

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