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    Quote Originally Posted by demolidor View Post
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    And now that I'm reading it 7 million pound for 3 years from UK Sport (= excluding any sponsorship money). And the dutch contract with Yonex pays half that over twice as long a period. Not sure how much government money comes on top of that but it's probably hardly worth mentioning .

    "The first litmus test will be becoming European number one by 2010," says Christy, who took over six months ago. Test #1: FAILED
    7 million might sounds alot. But trust me, it's no where near the budget the Chinese government are investing in Badminton.
    I would say England spend a fair bit in Badminton which is good for the sport. Yes, we were underperforming. However, the problem lies in the fact that most of the kids in UK started Badminton too late( most of them were introduced to the sport when they were teenagers).
    I can see young kids as young as 4 are running around on tennis lawn in UK, attending training run by tennis coach but this is not the case for badminton. Perhaps this is also due to the fact that we have less qualified badminton coaches around, which sort of impede the progress of competitive badminton at the grass root level.
    Those kids who pick up badminton at teenage age are probably too late to take the sport as they career(compared to their Asia counterpart who start training at a tender age of 8). There are not many kid who pick up badminton when they are 4 years old like Gail did, let alone those who hang on to the sport till they reach their adulthood. So we can only try to build the sport by investing a lot, and cross our finger so that someone will come out and lead GB to the top of the podium just like Gail Emms did.

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    Default London 2012 Olympics: badminton guide

    Read Telegraph Sport's guide to the badminton event at the London 2012 Olympics.

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    Dominant: Malaysia's Lee Chong Wei is one of the sport's biggest names Photo: REUTERS



    How many medals targeted by Team GB?

    One medal in both men's and mixed doubles

    Where are the chances?
    Experienced duo Nathan Robertson and Anthony Clark possess threat in men's doubles while mixed pairing Robertson and Jenny Wallwork, who replaced Gail Emms after her retirement in 2008, are looking stronger with every tournament.
    Key issue internationally?
    World Badminton's revamped Super Series is key to sport's growth over next three years. The four 'Grand Slam' events, which include All England Championships, gives badminton biggest platform in recent years.



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    Cough...you are putting LCW's photo in front of our London 2012 Olympics front page instead of our GB's player face?


    Having said that, this might be an indirect indication that LCW is more popular(at least with the reporters of telegraph ). They could have uploaded LD's macho pic, doing break dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcleing View Post
    7 million might sounds alot. But trust me, it's no where near the budget the Chinese government are investing in Badminton.
    I would say England spend a fair bit in Badminton which is good for the sport. Yes, we were underperforming. However, the problem lies in the fact that most of the kids in UK started Badminton too late( most of them were introduced to the sport when they were teenagers).
    I think you can say that about any country compared to China, maybe Malaysia would come closest. Wouldn't be surprised if Badminton England has more funding than the Danish even right now. Would be interesting to find out the french situation, wouldn't have gotten a Super Series for nothing I imagine.

    From what I've picked up the clubsystem could use a makeover over there in the UK. Maybe a proper premier league as well like on the continent. The schools system is another thing unimaginable over here. The only thing sportsrelated in schools is Phys Ed.; there's the odd schools tournament for a few sports but no regular teams or anything. So kids over here join clubs early on to be able to play. Walking into a centre and booking or just renting a court is already a rarity. Club system is dominant ...
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    Just reading this old development plan of the russian federation and for the 2005-2008 period their scheduled budget was roughly 854k GBP at todays exchange rate [roughly 40 million rubel in 2005, only added the numbers roughly. It's a bit less if I were to properly add up the numbers]
    (listed a bit strange since it only mentiones the years 2005 and 2008 separately so whether it's for 2 or 4 years is still open but in either case nowhere near)

    Anyhow, let's not go further into it and keep this thread for BE news purposes
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    maybe Sport England should put more money into badminton instead of wasting all those funding for the LTA which is a complete joke. There is a better chance that our badminton players could win a few medals in 2012 than those of the tennis players.

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    Default Ouseph lifts Yonex US Open title in the best win of his career

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    RAJIV OUSEPH gave English badminton a huge boost by lifting the men’s singles title at the Yonex US Open in Orange County, Los Angeles, in what he calls “the biggest win of my career.”

    The 23-year-old third seed from Hounslow in West London defeated France’s ninth seed Brice Leverdez 21-17 21-9 in 30 minutes for the biggest win of his career.


    He dropped just two games in the whole tournament – in his opening win and in the semi-finals – and the victory made up for his disappointing early exit at the Canadian Open just over a week ago, as well as avenging team-mate Carl Baxter’s defeat by Leverdez in the third round in Los Angeles.

    Ouseph must now wait until Thursday to see if the ranking points he collects for his US triumph will be enough to lift Great Britain’s highest-ranked singles player the two places he needs to take him into the world’s top 20 for the first time. His previous highest ranking is word No. 21.


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    Congratulation to Rajiv for his first ever gp title. You have done well, my man. Go, England! This is the message we wanted to send to all the big boys in WC: Watch out in Paris, we are coming for ya.

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    Default Rajiv Ouseph gives British badminton reason to cheer with US Open win

    I might not get the chance to post this sort of news often(just hope that I am wrong), so might as well make the full use of this thread.

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    British Badminton's chances of Olympic success may rest in the doubles events but Rajiv Ouseph handed the sport a major boost with two years to go after England's men's singles No 1 lifted the US Open in Los Angeles.

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    Top flight: Rajiv Ouseph has enjoyed a good run that could see him join world?s top 20 in the men's singles Photo: PA

    Ouseph, 23, defeated France’s Brice Leverdez 21-17, 21-9 in 30 minutes - a victory that is sure to cement the Middlesex right-hander's leap-bounding year with a place in the world's top 20 this week.

    The three-time national champion dropped just two games all week and his title comes just two weeks after Denmark’s Kenneth Jonassen arrived as new men’s singles badminton coach.



    Middlesex-based Ouseph, who travels next to the World Championships in Paris in three weeks, said: "I was feeling some pressure during this tournament but, after the first difficult round [he won 21-19 in the third game against Lee Hock Lai of Malaysia] I felt more relaxed and confident.



    "I am happy to have won a lot of hard matches against tough players this week. It’s definitely the biggest win of my career and now I am ready to take on new challenges."

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    Default Badminton England choose nine-man squad for Paris World Championships

    Rajiv Ouseph, England's top men's singles player, has moved into the world's top 20 for the first time following his stunning US Open win last weekend in Los Angeles - the perfect tonic ahead of next month's World Championships.

    By Rod Gilmour
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    The 23 year-old Middlesex right-hander rose three places to No 18 this week and will look to build on that success when he heads to Paris in under three weeks.

    The three-times English National Badminton champion and European bronze medallist is also part of a nine-strong squad to Paris and will be joined in the men’s singles by world No 31 Carl Baxter.


    The line-up also includes 2006 world mixed doubles champion Nathan Robertson and men’s doubles partner Anthony Clark, who won silver medals in mixed and men’s doubles at the same championships in Madrid.
    Robertson and Clark, the world No 20 pair, are England’s best medal hopes in the squad, having won the 2009 Singapore Open title to give England their first Super Series title.
    Robertson and Clark are joined in the men’s doubles by Yorkshire’s Robin Middleton and Surrey’s Chris Langridge while Leeds pair Gabby White and Jenny Wallwork will tackle the women’s doubles.
    World No 12s Robertson and Wallwork are each tackling two events in Paris. The European bronze medallists lead England’s mixed doubles challenge in Paris along with Chris Adcock and White.



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    Quote Originally Posted by lcleing View Post
    7 million might sounds alot. But trust me, it's no where near the budget the Chinese government are investing in Badminton.
    I would say England spend a fair bit in Badminton which is good for the sport. Yes, we were underperforming. However, the problem lies in the fact that most of the kids in UK started Badminton too late( most of them were introduced to the sport when they were teenagers).
    I can see young kids as young as 4 are running around on tennis lawn in UK, attending training run by tennis coach but this is not the case for badminton. Perhaps this is also due to the fact that we have less qualified badminton coaches around, which sort of impede the progress of competitive badminton at the grass root level.
    Those kids who pick up badminton at teenage age are probably too late to take the sport as they career(compared to their Asia counterpart who start training at a tender age of 8). There are not many kid who pick up badminton when they are 4 years old like Gail did, let alone those who hang on to the sport till they reach their adulthood. So we can only try to build the sport by investing a lot, and cross our finger so that someone will come out and lead GB to the top of the podium just like Gail Emms did.
    This sort of thing has been going on over the last 25 years in England. Where is the proof of success of such a program. Even if you did it for badminton, judging by the results from tennis, you'd get nowhere.

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    ..methinks this thread should be in the Professional Players section..

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    Default Badminton England ends void as Andy Wood named GB head coach

    Badminton England continued their promise of swift changes at the top of the sport on Wednesday when Andy Wood was named as GB head coach.


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    Status: Gail Emms and Nathan Robertson were last Britons to win Olympic medal under Andy Wood Photo: GETTY IMAGES

    Wood, one of the sport’s most respected coaches, was the driving force behind the success story of Nathan Robertson and Gail Emms in mixed doubles during his previous tenure as head coach, which covered the 2000 and 2004 Olympic Games.




    His appointment ends a frantic few weeks at Badminton England's Milton Keynes headquarters after Ian Moss quit his post as performance director two weeks ago.


    With the World Championships starting on Aug 23 in Paris, Adrian Christy, Badminton England's chief executive, first moved to fill the void left by Moss's departure by naming Vikki McPherson as head of GB Performance. It effectively paved the way for a new on-court role for Wood, who was previously Olympic team leader.


    Wood's experience will certainly lift England's nine-man squad for Paris, which is already buoyant after Rajiv Ouseph lifted the US Open title in Los Angeles last month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    This sort of thing has been going on over the last 25 years in England. Where is the proof of success of such a program. Even if you did it for badminton, judging by the results from tennis, you'd get nowhere.
    Well, at least we have Andy Murray in tennis. True, with so much money getting pumped into football(read not American/Australian football)-players flying in busineess class during international matches, lodging in 5 stars hotels, specially employed cooks and nurtritionists and medical tems, our football team still failed BIG TIME. That's certainly no much basis I have by saying that we will excel in badminton once more kids were involved in badminton. However, the situation will be much better than what we are at the moment(i.e. struggling to win within Europe). That's for sure.

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    Default Robertson & Wallwork get tough World Championships draw

    England's mixed doubles pair Nathan Robertson and Jenny Wallwork have been handed a difficult draw at the World Championships in Paris.



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    Robertson won the world championships with Gail Emms in 2006

    The duo are set to face Denmark's world and European champions Thomas Laybourn and Kamilla Rytter Juhl, if they make it through to the third round.
    Robertson, with Anthony Clark, also has a daunting task in the men's doubles.
    Clark and Robertson begin against former world champions Tony Gunawan and Howard Bach of the USA.
    If the pair can survive that test, a meeting with 2006 and 2009 world champions Fu Haifeng and Cai Yun of China beckons in the third round.
    England's Chris Langridge and Robin Middleton received a first-round bye but will face Chinese fourth seeds Guo Zhendong and Xu Chen in the second round.
    Robertson won the world title with his former mixed doubles partner Gail Emms back in 2006.

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    Default Tough draw

    Let's go England. Let's go!

    England, I hope to see you in the finals.

    lcleing, Thanks for the updates.

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    Default World Badminton Championships 2010: Britain's Rajiv Ouseph sets the tone

    Quote Originally Posted by venkatesh View Post
    Let's go England. Let's go!

    England, I hope to see you in the finals.

    lcleing, Thanks for the updates.
    You are welcome .

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    British No 1 Rajiv Ouseph made a winning start at the World Championships in Paris with a thrilling victory over Holland's Eric Pang.



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    The three-time English National badminton champion eventually prevailed 21-19 15-21 23-21 on his fourth match point after 49 minutes.

    Ouseph, the world number 17 and newly-crowned US Open champion, trailed 18-11 in the first game before hitting back to take an early lead.

    Pang levelled in the second and forged ahead 14-11 in the last but Ouseph responded and held out in a nervy finish.
    Veteran pair Nathan Robertson and Anthony Clark were also victorious in the men's doubles, beating 10th seeds and former world gold medallists Howard Bach and Tony Gunawan 21-9 22-20.
    Leeds pair Jenny Wallwork and Gabby White were also successful, beating Canada's Milaine Cloutier and Valerie St Jacques 21-3 21-14 in the women's doubles, White had less fortune in the mixed doubles as she and boyfriend Chris Adcock went down 21-6 14-21 21-8 to Valiyaveetil Diju and Jwala Gutta of India.
    Lin Dan and Lee Chong Wei, the two finest men's singles players in badminton, made brilliantly emphatic starts to a world championships which augur well for an eagerly-anticipated semi-final on Saturday.

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    Default England well prepared to triumph at World Championships says Nathan Robertson

    Nathan Robertson, England’s most experienced doubles players, believes that coaching changes and a settled squad bodes well for the World Championships, which start on Monday in Paris.


    By Rod Gilmour
    Published: 1:14AM BST 23 Aug 2010

    England’s doubles players have gelled together on the Super Series world tour, Rajiv Ouseph has moved into the world’s top 20 in men’s singles while Andy Wood has returned to lead the squad towards London 2012.

    Robertson said: “It’s not easy to create a great atmosphere but I think we are settled now – we have a great team all working together towards the same goals.”

    Robertson and Anthony Clark start their men’s doubles campaign in Paris on Monday against Tony Gunawan and Howard Bach, of the USA.

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    Default Nathan Robertson and Jenny Wallwork win Paris opener

    Nathan Robertson and Jenny Wallwork are through to the second round of the World Championships mixed doubles.
    The English duo, seeded 15, recovered from a slow start to beat Valeriy Atrashenkov and Elena Prus 21-16 21-15.
    But Wallwork suffered defeat in the women's doubles as she and Gabrielle White were beaten 21-16 21-16 by Petya Nedelcheva and Anastasia Russkikh.



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    Robertson and Wallwork were soon in control of the match


    Chris Langridge and Robin Middleton were beaten 24-22 21-15 by Zhendong Guo and Chen Xu in the men's doubles.
    The Ukrainian pair of Prus and Atrashenkov established a 14-10 lead in the first game in Paris, but were overhauled as Robertson and Wallwork collected 11 of the last 13 points.


    Seven unanswered points followed early in the second game as the English pair built a cushion that allowed them to close out the match in relative comfort.
    The combination, who have been together since Robertson's partnership with Gail Emms ended in 2008, won bronze at the European Championships in April.
    After being eased out of the opening game of their match, Wallwork and White provided some early resistance in the second as they traded points with the tenth seeds.



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