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Thread: Was Chen Jin cheating?
08-30-2010, 09:39 AM #171
Originally Posted by logatech
In addition, for point 1) I have seen TH get upset before - HK Open, Macau Open. There's also the walking out at Asian Games in Korea, going into the stands after a heckler in InaOpen, smashing his racquet in Thomas Cup for few others. Just because he hasn't complained against LCW doesn't mean TH has suddenly become an angel. Matured, yes, angel, no.
point 2) can always try it out. Nothing to lose except a verbal warning from the umpire - won't even be a yellow card offence.
08-30-2010, 09:42 AM #172
08-30-2010, 09:57 AM #173
just oen question to Jug8man
Suppose we switch the position of Chen Jin and Taufik. Suppose it were Chen Jin who complained about Taufik manipulating the shuttle, showed two shuttles to the judges, etc., did exactly the same as what Taufik did, what would be your reaction? Just be honest.
08-30-2010, 10:05 AM #174
So, now we are turning it into Taufik supporters vs Chen Jin supporters issue? I'm telling you, it is incredibly hard to see it form an unbiased point of view. Chen Jin supporters will definitely protect Chen Jin. All those people who have been very vocal against Taufik so far are most definitely China supporters, while those who are vocal against Chen Jin are probably those who do not support China. If this is happening, the discussion is not productive.
08-30-2010, 10:07 AM #175
08-30-2010, 10:12 AM #176
08-30-2010, 10:21 AM #177
Look, why is it so difficult to understand that a shuttlecock that has been in play can only be slowed down if it can be manipulated to have increased air resistance? Only increased air resistance can slow down a shuttle. A shuttlecock that is in play and then manipulated to have all the feathers bent outwards at the tips will have a larger diameter, which will increase air resistance. It is this increased air resistance that slows its speed. But bent feather tips can be spotted easily and no player can get away with it. There is no way you can get away with it.
Now, tell me how on earth can you make a good shuttlecock slow down without increasing its air resistance or increasing its drag? By placing three fingers inside the shuttle? By pretending to rub the feathers with your fingers?
08-30-2010, 10:27 AM #178
couldn't get your pm answered or still unable to figure out how?
08-30-2010, 10:36 AM #179
08-30-2010, 10:52 AM #180
Last edited by Cheung; 08-30-2010 at 10:54 AM.
08-30-2010, 11:02 AM #181
and some of his (obviously numerous) back-up points include:
Even the male commentator said that the shuttle 'may have been' manipulated to slow down the shuttle (to Chen Jin's advantage)I watched the show live with a former World Chinese Men Single Champion. The 70 year old man came to the same the same conclusion as I did.I disagree unless we can get the Umpire to come to BC Forum and give his honest opinion.
All I saw is an angry Taufik and Coach reaction to what they saw... and an umpire who paused and did not deny Taufik
but luckily, he advised :
Don't take things too seriously and let's respect each others opinion people.
Cheers, Chill and be happy
in Conclusion, i think it's time we rest our case. we've done our best. Cheers, Chill and be happy.
Last edited by Anatolii; 08-30-2010 at 11:13 AM.
08-30-2010, 12:05 PM #182
08-30-2010, 12:29 PM #183
08-30-2010, 12:55 PM #184
If you cannot beat the opponent on the court. You try to destroy him outside the court. That is what happening.
08-30-2010, 04:02 PM #185
08-30-2010, 05:25 PM #186
08-30-2010, 05:36 PM #187
So far as far as the players are concerned and based on the history and record of the players I agree with Cheung totally.
And don't forget that Cheung is also a certified coach like many many others here.
I would still like to learn how to manipulate a shuttle undetected, maybe someone could demo it on youtube.
then I will deliver it by hand to the BWF Also then I earn some extra pocket money by winning lots of bets "short cut" way. That will be using know how to make some pocket money.
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