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Thread: Was Chen Jin cheating?
08-29-2010, 07:22 PM #52
i'm SO MUCH impressed by all super judges in "amateure" level (as admitted in some of posts above) basing their judgement in front of a TV or live streaming of a computer.
I TRUELY believe BWF should just fire those international certified umpires and service
judges and hire you guys in the next world championships.
Let me just ask you guys a questions, how many official games have you judged in the past?
Do you think those umpires/service judges were being blind-fold?
Let's give some respects to the BWF officials and the players.
08-29-2010, 07:27 PM #53
08-29-2010, 07:29 PM #54
Obviously Canada is the place to be for World Class badminton year around I've been around the so called "highly qualified international certified umpires and service judges" often enough to know how amateuristic it all is.
But I didn't bring up this topic and don't agree with it either, just don't kid yourself the refereeing level is out of this world . At times you'd think they have the attention span of a two year old .
Last edited by demolidor; 08-29-2010 at 07:34 PM.
08-29-2010, 07:41 PM #55
Mistakes by line judges - that happens everywhere and is also out of discussion here.
08-29-2010, 08:24 PM #56
08-29-2010, 08:28 PM #57
08-29-2010, 08:46 PM #58
1. Chen Jin really manipulate the shuttlecock
2. It s just TH mind game
i dont know what kind of manipulation with the shuttle, but if u remembered, last year CJ did the same and TH complaining to the referee too. I ve an opinion bout what CJ did, if u watch his left hand, especially his finger, he usually hold using 3 finger deep inside the shuttle and the tumb outside, he hold realy tight...do u know what player that hold the shuttle in that way??? can u imagine how width that 3 finger of a big man like CJ...so ithink that make the shuttle slower and tend to be rather unbalance...maybe it fit CJ style but TH dislike it....that s is TH right to argue to the referee, but its up to the referee to make the decision
besides, i think CJ is the best allrounded player today, he has very solid defense and good footwork....congrat to CJ, congrat to TH that show us again his talent
08-29-2010, 09:19 PM #59
Fair comments, nobody likes opponents meddling with the shuttles, maybe it will introduce some kind of germs
and bad luck/charms. The officials know their job.
Best solution is to ignore it completely and concentrate on the game. Maybe we should try this tactic against opponents in tournaments and see how their game drops when they they are not allowed to get their way.
08-29-2010, 09:46 PM #60
TH lost because CJ managed to disrupt TH game plan and never allow him to smash NORMALLY. CJ was playing an attacking game and would prefer a faster shuttle.
Those people are just sore over their player losing and trying to discredit the winner. If you managed to convince majority of the people to believe a lie it would become a truth.
TH is still a good player but never won an SS tournament although he was in many finals. so it was normal he lost again in this final. Everytimes he get into a SS and major final he lost.
TH is talented but without proper training and good sparring partners now that he is on his own it will not be easy for him to win every match he contested. LCW trained very hard that's why he won a lot of tournaments.
08-29-2010, 10:05 PM #61
what is cheating? google it and you will see all badminton players cheat in one way or another according to the defination in wikipedia. Deception, trickery, creating an unfair advantage at the expense of others interest.
Badminton is a cheating game. LOL (off topics- sorry)
08-29-2010, 10:06 PM #62
last 2 TH winning over LCW is macau (CMIIW) after OG 2008....LCW reason is he is still tired after OG...and now LCW said that s cos back injured...i think he is the best injured player in de world lol...he can smash that hard, move so fast heheheheh...not a good sportsmanship in my opinion
08-29-2010, 10:06 PM #63
cj's fast attacking game requires a faster shuttle - not necessary
and i do not have any comment whether chen jin is cheating or not
because manipulating the flight of shuttle by player is nothing new and its a tactic by itself
though a dirty one!
08-29-2010, 10:18 PM #64
disrty or not, CJ willbe remembered as a wold Champion...we have honored his achievement
08-29-2010, 10:21 PM #65
So Yes, Canada, USA.... do produce world-class umpires
And I do believe any BWF officials you see in this world championships and pasts can judge better than you.
08-29-2010, 11:36 PM #66
08-29-2010, 11:44 PM #67
08-29-2010, 11:47 PM #68
the shuttles were tested before match. they should all be standard speed, and being top of the line, all shuttle in the same tube will perform identically.
so if Taufik claims that it was tempered with to change the speed, then why not do the baseline test to compare with a fresh one?
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