User Tag List

Page 6 of 8 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 LastLast
Results 86 to 102 of 121
  1. #86
    Moderator cobalt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Arrakis
    Posts
    8,905
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    I'm just a little concerned about the mix in disciplines. If you guys will notice, even the poll for the best net player is dedicated to doubles players only, and that is how it should be.

    Again, and as some others on this thread have also pointed out, it may be a good idea to create separate polls for singles and doubles players. The basic game-playing criteria are different and beyond a point it would be unfair to mix them up in one poll. My 2 cents. Sorry if this has created further problems!!

  2. #87
    Regular Member ctjcad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    u.s.a.
    Posts
    19,157
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoppy View Post
    So now you can measure subjectivity?? em.....i wonder how........

    Yes i did say them, sorry if its not too much for your attention. ...
    - I don't think only myself. I'm sure others can read and see themselves whether the list/topic is more subjective or not..
    How about this, i'll give a suggestion, if still want to stay with 1 poll/thread. If there's no specific criterias set up or just want to use "effectiveness" as the only criteria, then let's have a bunch of names thrown out and assign 3 people or 5 people, who've seen the players or most of them play, give the approval/go ahead on those names.
    - If you did mention them, do you mind pointing them to me (i went over this thread again and don't see any; maybe on the 1st page with "high jumper and very explosive" as your criterias?)..

  3. #88
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    TW, SG, HK
    Posts
    7,314
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quite a simple answer really.... Me

  4. #89
    Regular Member Thom_bad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Saskatoon, Canada
    Posts
    2,517
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Can you please post any pics/video to show your smash skill ??

    ""LD Rules!, best smasher ever lived"" XD

  5. #90
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    TW, SG, HK
    Posts
    7,314
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom_bad View Post
    Can you please post any pics/video to show your smash skill ??

    ""LD Rules!, best smasher ever lived"" XD
    Give me two weeks, I will get a video up, of me playing extremely aggressive in one of my upcoming tournaments. anyone want to lend me a Speed gun ?

  6. #91
    Regular Member Thom_bad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Saskatoon, Canada
    Posts
    2,517
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Ask Yonex they usually add some k/h to what is recorded
    ........................

  7. #92
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Malaysia
    Posts
    792
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    .. I put my suggestion forward about "effectiveness" as it is effectiveness that wins points or creates the situation for winning points.
    Discussing about world best smasher, "best" can be define by numerous criteria from the individual point of view, starting from how its being execute, its outcome or any title that comes with it. I always tell my students what my previous coaches told me how they define what is an effective badminton smash..."an effective badminton smash is a winning smash"....smash that can win you point..... a superior "version" of a smash. Ex - professional badminton player and commentator like gillian clark and ian wright also always idol effective smasher such as Lin Dan for an example because, whenever he leaps into the air and execute a smash, it will surely be a winning smash, smash that surely will win him a point, until the opponents prove it otherwise.

    Personally from my opinion, even if exist such a player that can smash at a speed of light, so steep that it landed always at the front court, so high the jump until he can obstruct the whole lighting system inside the hall, so many times he can smash non-stop that even a photostat machine also cannot do as many times like how he smash....but then, eventually, it can be taken and return back by the opponent to him without winning any point, then it will be just an ordinary smash, only it looks and sound grandiose because that's how he execute it. A winning smash won't maybe can make you win your game or title, because winning itself require the player the play well with all the complete package of strokes well executed, but having a winning smash as an arsenal will make the opponent thinks 5 times (not twice) to lift the shuttlecock, thus creating the psychological surrounding of fear of lift to occur hence influence how he plays his game.

    Making effective as a criteria is worth gold using.

  8. #93
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Vancouver, BC
    Posts
    1,752
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    hmm, you do go back a long way

    Misbun, yes effective. Consistent with it?

    Chen ChangJie - I cannot recall his play.
    Chen Changjie - late 70's and early 80's. Very hard smasher, you can watch his game in Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZFz2...eature=related

    If not mistaken, Chen Changjie beat Morten Frost in the 1981 Santa Clara games (non-Olympic sports?). Read the reports that Morten Frost was not able to handle his attacks (smashes).

    I would say Misbun was very effective with his 'chop-smash' - but I would see it more as a fast-drop or 'half-smash'. Misbun was one of the best technical player at his time, able to conceal his stroke very effectively. Usually able to move his opponent around before delivering the final blow.

    Having said that, if Misbun is included in the lot of smashers, Yang Yang should surely be in the list as well. I have seen on various occasions Yang Yang smashing successfully after the serve, against players like Morten Frost or Icuk. Yang Yang's smash is powerful, but like you mentioned, his preference would be moving his opponent around before hitting that well-placed smash to finish the rally.

  9. #94
    Regular Member pBmMalaysia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Kuching, Malaysia, Malaysia
    Posts
    4,743
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    yes correct, viver, that's why i mention misbun's 'chop smash'

    its a deceptive half smash actually

    and lets vote for yang yang!

  10. #95
    Moderator
    Join Date
    Apr 2002
    Location
    Outside the box
    Posts
    14,266
    Mentioned
    48 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by shooting stroke View Post
    Discussing about world best smasher, "best" can be define by numerous criteria from the individual point of view, starting from how its being execute, its outcome or any title that comes with it. I always tell my students what my previous coaches told me how they define what is an effective badminton smash..."an effective badminton smash is a winning smash"....smash that can win you point..... a superior "version" of a smash. Ex - professional badminton player and commentator like gillian clark and ian wright also always idol effective smasher such as Lin Dan for an example because, whenever he leaps into the air and execute a smash, it will surely be a winning smash, smash that surely will win him a point, until the opponents prove it otherwise.

    Personally from my opinion, even if exist such a player that can smash at a speed of light, so steep that it landed always at the front court, so high the jump until he can obstruct the whole lighting system inside the hall, so many times he can smash non-stop that even a photostat machine also cannot do as many times like how he smash....but then, eventually, it can be taken and return back by the opponent to him without winning any point, then it will be just an ordinary smash, only it looks and sound grandiose because that's how he execute it. A winning smash won't maybe can make you win your game or title, because winning itself require the player the play well with all the complete package of strokes well executed, but having a winning smash as an arsenal will make the opponent thinks 5 times (not twice) to lift the shuttlecock, thus creating the psychological surrounding of fear of lift to occur hence influence how he plays his game.

    Making effective as a criteria is worth gold using.
    In men's singles, IMHO, Lin Dan is the best!! No need to poll it. haha

  11. #96
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    2,876
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    - I don't think only myself. I'm sure others can read and see themselves whether the list/topic is more subjective or not..
    I said YOU, not others . You get what i mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    - If you did mention them, do you mind pointing them to me (i went over this thread again and don't see any; maybe on the 1st page with "high jumper and very explosive" as your criterias?)..
    I said on the first post, what i like about them such as they way the redefine the game is played, as well as the evolution of the technique, etc. Im not surprise at all you missed all of them and still accusing this thread of being "yoppy's best smasher"

  12. #97
    Regular Member ctjcad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    u.s.a.
    Posts
    19,157
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by LD rules! View Post
    Quite a simple answer really.... Me
    ..(on another lighter note) i was thinking of our Panda, DinkAlot, who, with one powerful swing, not only can break strings faster than one can chow down a pizza but also break rackets at near record breaking speed..
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoppy View Post
    I said YOU, not others . You get what i mean?
    I said on the first post, what i like about them such as they way the redefine the game is played, as well as the evolution of the technique, etc. Im not surprise at all you missed all of them and still accusing this thread of being "yoppy's best smasher"
    - If asking me, then yes, i can tell whether if the thread/poll is less or more subjective..How? well, by how there's no poll(s) set-up yet. Then by the various suggestions of names to add to the list..
    - Oh, those?!?!..If those are (your) criterias, then the original list confirms it's a "Yoppy's List of Best Smashers" (because those names fall under your criterias, don't they?)....
    Last edited by ctjcad; 09-08-2010 at 04:09 PM.

  13. #98
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    2,876
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    - Oh, those?!?!..If those are (your) criterias, then the original list confirms it's a "Yoppy's List of Best Smashers" (because those names fall under your criterias, don't they?)....
    Ofcourse not, and i dont have to explain why, do i?

  14. #99
    Regular Member ctjcad's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    u.s.a.
    Posts
    19,157
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoppy View Post
    Ofcourse not, and i dont have to explain why, do i?
    ..wait, the original list (1st post) of players wasn't created by you??..only after a few posts/comments/suggestions abt how broad the topic is then more players' names were thrown in/out..
    Last edited by ctjcad; 09-10-2010 at 03:13 PM.

  15. #100
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Sydney
    Posts
    2,876
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ctjcad View Post
    ..wait, the original list (1st post) of players wasn't created by you??..only after a few posts/comments/suggestions abt how broad the topic is then more players' names were thrown in/out..
    So................................? Are you S****D?
    Firstly you said, i did not set out criteria.....WRONG
    Secondly you accused bla bla..............also WRONG
    Sorry
    Last edited by Yoppy; 09-11-2010 at 09:31 PM.

  16. #101
    Regular Member pBmMalaysia's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    Kuching, Malaysia, Malaysia
    Posts
    4,743
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Default

    as i mentioned earlier

    each and everyone of us give our own assessment of who's the best smasher

    then run a poll or something to find the popular ones

    at least we got something rather than endless debate here

    what say you, thread starter yoppy?

  17. #102
    Moderator cobalt's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Arrakis
    Posts
    8,905
    Mentioned
    44 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)

    Default

    Yes, get on with it Yoppy! Our fingers are itching to hit those buttons....

Page 6 of 8 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. MD best smasher EVER!!!!!!!
    By Yoppy in forum Professional Players
    Replies: 143
    : 11-28-2014, 05:56 PM
  2. The best smasher... for females!
    By New_Guy04 in forum Professional Players
    Replies: 8
    : 11-25-2010, 02:18 AM
  3. World's BEST BACKHANDER ever lived??
    By Yoppy in forum Professional Players
    Replies: 83
    : 10-02-2010, 12:02 PM
  4. The hardest smasher in the WORLD!!
    By Josh in forum General Forum
    Replies: 18
    : 11-27-2001, 07:13 PM
  5. How to deal with a smasher??
    By Justin Leung in forum Techniques / Training
    Replies: 10
    : 05-20-2001, 10:47 AM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •