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    Default New Birdie

    hey any one know if they are selling them in the us? because if they do i rather buy those that last longer then the MAvis 300. My friends and I break them quite quickly with a total of 5 smashes. if these live up to thier word we might finnaly have spending money.

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    Default Quill Shuttles

    I am a bit confused - is it comparable to a feather shuttle or do people that have tried them think they are only replacing plastic shuttles ?

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    Default Re: Quill Shuttles

    Originally posted by seanrachy
    I am a bit confused - is it comparable to a feather shuttle or do people that have tried them think they are only replacing plastic shuttles ?
    I think what Quill shuttles are made to do is to have the same characteristics as a feather shuttle but have the durability of a nylon shuttle.

    Tare Panda

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    Default Re: Re: Quill Shuttles

    Originally posted by tarepanda
    I think what Quill shuttles are made to do is to have the same characteristics as a feather shuttle but have the durability of a nylon shuttle.

    Tare Panda
    easier said then done... the question is how close can it mimic it? I'm still waiting for it to be available here in TO.

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    Default Re: Re: Re: Quill Shuttles

    Originally posted by bigredlemon
    easier said then done... the question is how close can it mimic it? I'm still waiting for it to be available here in TO.
    Well... from what I read in the forums, they are pretty close to the real thing.

    Tare Panda

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    Default Re: Re: Re: Re: Quill Shuttles

    Originally posted by tarepanda
    Well... from what I read in the forums, they are pretty close to the real thing.

    Tare Panda
    in flight pattern... but not in the feel from what i hear... they still feel like plastic. Can't wait to get my hands on these to verify though

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    Hi all,

    I have a reply for you from Nick Goode of Ashaway in the UK. He says the following...

    ''The problem with the bases has now been rectified.

    If anybody has had a problem with the bases then please contact us on 01707
    321397, let us know where they were purchased and we will replace them for
    you.

    Quill is not the same as any other nylons. They are made differently and
    feel and play differently. If players would like to hold a forum with the
    designer to ask him what he has been working on for the last 8 years (!!!!)
    then please let Matthew know.

    We have had many enquiries for distribution of Quill in both the US and
    Canada as well as many other countries but we want to get things moving in
    the UK and resolve teething problems before moving into international
    distribution."

    I hope this helps, and if you wish me to set up a new thread where you can post questions to the designer, then please let me know.

    Kind regards,
    Matt

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    Originally posted by Matt Ross
    Hi all,

    I have a reply for you from Nick Goode of Ashaway in the UK. He says the following...

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    Kind regards,
    Matt
    I think it's great that they're focusing on quality control before rushing it to market and risk dissapointing a lot of people like other companies in other industries. Did mr Goode mention when the expected launch day would be for the rest of the world? Would it be available in major sporting stores or probably only specialized stores? I've only seen Yonex, Carlton, Wilson, and Black Knight nylons at major sports stores so far, and they usually only carry one brand. (SportChek=Yonex, SportMart=BK, etc.) I suspect this might be because of some exclusivity contract. Would this prevent Ashaway's penetration into the Canadian mass market? Call me lazy but I don't really want to spend another 2+ hours on the bus just to get to Lee's or Yo's badminton store.

    Also Matt, I'm sure we would love to hear how he designed the birdie.

    PS. Not to be a style nazi or anything but when quoting multiple paragraphs, you must start each new paragraph with a opening quotation mark but include the closing quotation mark only at the end of the quote unless it is a block quote in which no quotation marks are used.

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    Heh,

    Yes sir! I cant be bothered with all the quotation marks etc, i was just asked to post it. I'll ask Mr.Goode foryou about possible launch dates etc, but need more feedback if i was to start a thread for the designer.

    Matt

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    Hey Matt. Possible price points for the International market would also be something I am interested in. And needless to say, this would undoubtedly be the deciding factor for many consumers out there.

    Currently, Ashaway UK seems to be pricing the Quills in the same range as the Mavis 370's. Also, they don't seem to be available in yellow at the moment. I am sure the colour issue will be rectified, but I am a little curious about the segment of the market that Ashaway wants to place the Quills into. If they want to de-throne the Mavis 300's dominance in the market, then I think they are really kidding themselves given the current price point of the Quills, regardless of how well the Quills can micmic the characteristics of featuer shuttles. On the other hand, if they simply want to satisfy a niche market (which could already be a very big one) who wouldn't mind paying a little more for the more "accurate" shuttle response, then the current price point makes the Quills a good deal.

    Seems to me they are going for the latter. But is that really in the best interest of the company?

    -Rick

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    Traum, i'm sure the price will come down more eventually. right now they have to adjust their production facilities and possibily bring in new equipment whose costs will need to be offset. Further, they did say the birds last longer. If this indeed true, then the cost of Quills will be about the same or cheaper per game (rather than per bird.)

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    Here's an update on the durability.
    It's about 8 weeks since I got my Quill shuttles.
    I only play with them about 1 hour a week (max) so in 8 hours play I've gone through at least 10 shuttles.

    These are 10 shuttles with very ripped skirts. (they include the shuttles where the bases separated and were re-glued).
    I think the skirts go faster than Mavis because they are more rigid

    they still fly OK, but faster
    a Mavis 300 or 370 would be wobbling all over the place with the same skirt damage

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    Default Can someone answer my question ?

    Hi !

    Can Matt or someone else answer my question about whether they are good enough to replace a feather shuttle or it is a replacement for only plastic shuttles ?

    My club is trying to reduce running costs without switching back to plastics.

    Cheers,
    Sean

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    Sean,
    I think they are more like plastic than like feather.

    Whether they are good enough for you and your club though is something for you to decide. You should get some and try them out first hand.

    regards,
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    Just to revive an old thread, this is what I got from Black Knight Canada (BK is the Canadian distributor of Ashaway products). Kudos to BK for getting back to me quickly.

    Thank you for your e-mail.

    We are conducting tests of the Quill shuttle in order to make our decision. We'll have the results in January.

    I have made a note to write back to you in early January to inform you of the Ashaway test results and our plans.

    Sportingly,
    Allan


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rick Leung [mailto:ryleung@telus.net]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:30 PM
    To: Black Knight West
    Subject: Ashaway Badminton Shuttle


    Hello. I understand that Black Knight is the Canadian distributor for Ashaway products. I am wondering if there any plans for BK to import and distribute the new Ashaway Quill nylon shuttles in Canada? Given the reviews I've read, it seems like an awefully promising shuttle that could at least cut a niche for itself in a market dominated by the Yonex Mavis series.


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    Last edited by Traum; 12-16-2003 at 09:21 PM.

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    The same question directed to Ashaway USA. Quite frankly, I am a little surprised that Ashaway USA won't be importing this themselves.

    -Rick

    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: RE: Ashaway Quill Shuttles
    Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:42:04 -0500
    From: "Ashaway Line & Twine" <sales@ashawayusa.com>
    To: "'Rick Leung'" <ryleung@telus.net>

    Hi,
    Sorry to say,but we will not import or distribute this product made in the UK.I am hopeful that several distributors will do this instead.We will remain strictly a manufacturer.

    Sincerely,
    Steve Crandall

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rick Leung [mailto:ryleung@telus.net]
    Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 7:33 PM
    To: sales@ashawayusa.com
    Subject: Ashaway Quill Shuttles


    Hello. I am wondering if Ashaway USA has any plans to import and distribute the new Ashaway Quill nylon shuttles in the US? Given the reviews I've read, it seems like an awefully promising shuttle that could at least cut a niche for itself in a market dominated by the Yonex Mavis series.


    Regards,
    -Rick Leung

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    Anyone tried to new improved version?

    http://www.directsportseshop.co.uk/P...mSearchPage=No

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