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    CY FHF signature bag is really cool!! glad to have one. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alapongtai View Post
    lol...? i thought u were selling your c7. change of heart?
    Yep. At first the head-heaviness put me off, but now it's sweeeeeeeet. So glad I didn't sell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    Yep. At first the head-heaviness put me off, but now it's sweeeeeeeet. So glad I didn't sell it.
    how does it feel compared to mx80? thank you.

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    Well, they're opposites in a way.

    The MX80 is stiff and zingy, and feels stiff everywhere yet has a 'sort of' playable stiffness. Barely detectable head-heaviness at BP300-295 and as everyone knows is great in pushes and drives especially. The 80 is best described as a kinda mechanical or springy feeling racket - it's strength is also its weakness in that respect.

    The C7 on the otherhand is obviously head heavy with a BP of 304-5. Its a very tactile racket, very well damped without losing connection to the stringbed. It's got great punch from the back court, yet is surprisingly nimble in the forecourt, which makes you kinda stop and look at the racket when you first play with it! It's not as stiff as it probably could be, which i think would bother some more advanced players but for intermediates it means gobs of playability - especially something head heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    Well, they're opposites in a way.

    The MX80 is stiff and zingy, and feels stiff everywhere yet has a 'sort of' playable stiffness. Barely detectable head-heaviness at BP300-295 and as everyone knows is great in pushes and drives especially. The 80 is best described as a kinda mechanical or springy feeling racket - it's strength is also its weakness in that respect.

    The C7 on the otherhand is obviously head heavy with a BP of 304-5. Its a very tactile racket, very well damped without losing connection to the stringbed. It's got great punch from the back court, yet is surprisingly nimble in the forecourt, which makes you kinda stop and look at the racket when you first play with it! It's not as stiff as it probably could be, which i think would bother some more advanced players but for intermediates it means gobs of playability - especially something head heavy.
    Actually, many advanced players like not-so-stiff rackets, as they make playing easier and give most a little extra help on hard shots (smash, clear). What seems to work best for those I play with are moderately/slightly head heavy rackets with a medium stiff shaft (Oliver T50P/eNtron600, which is basically a slightly softer ArcZS, and Arc7).
    I'm very interested in the C7, but really can't afford it after getting 2 rackets recently

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    Quote Originally Posted by j4ckie View Post
    I'm very interested in the C7, but really can't afford it after getting 2 rackets recently
    Which two?

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    Voltric Z force and Cab 50.

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    Haha, would like that as they both look interesting indeed - but as I destroyed my BS09 recently, I decided to get the Oliver T50 Power twice. Similar stiffness, but more head heavy - a very good offensive racket. Not too head heavy for net play, but enough to be noticeably stronger than the BS09 on smashes. Very nice racket, and a super price (81€ per piece for me, although the BS would've been only 90€). Strung with 26,5 NBG98 - good power, good control
    I noticed Oliver isn't very popular outside of Germany, and while MBS have some of their stuff, it doesn't include the T series or the eNtron series...a shame, it's a really nice brand for those who don't want to pay Yonex prices. Although I always have to laugh at the English translations

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    I was looking online, and found the the F9 LTD and the F9, different prices, and the only difference seems to be that there's the signature near the top of the shaft... No paint difference whatsoever.

    Anyone try the F9 PT or the C7 PT?

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    Is it PT series are more forgiving or opposite one? i guess the opposite, so that when use the real racket (non PT series), we can whack like hell easier.

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    The different thing I notice between F9 and F9 PT is the frame profile.

    F9 has "sword" and octablade shape, no Muscle Power grommet style from 10-2 o clock.
    F9 PT has box shape, and muscle power grommet style(just like Ti 10).

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    Where did you see this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulierand View Post
    Voltric Z force and Cab 50.
    so. how does the cab 50 feel and where did you get it from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocker View Post
    The different thing I notice between F9 and F9 PT is the frame profile.

    F9 has "sword" and octablade shape, no Muscle Power grommet style from 10-2 o clock.
    F9 PT has box shape, and muscle power grommet style(just like Ti 10).
    What I don't get is why get two rackets (supposedly the same) and make one a training racket, and then give it different aerodynamics and weight? They're almost completely different rackets now.

    Have you played with it yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WingsAir View Post
    What I don't get is why get two rackets (supposedly the same) and make one a training racket, and then give it different aerodynamics and weight? They're almost completely different rackets now.

    Have you played with it yet?
    Well the whole idea is to make the training racket a little heavier and slower so that you have a bigger resistance. Increases the speed when you use your actual racket if done right, and the power of your shots as well.
    So, my guess would be that they went for a higher weight for the training and a boxier frame for the added stability - after all, if you want a slow/heavy racket anyway, why not make it really stable so it doesn't break....ever...? You can just use more carbon in the head, and it'll have both effects.

    Keep in mind that I have no idea about these specific models, and my statement refers to training rackets in general.

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    i just got my Kason F9 a month ago and I love it. But since their racket, bag, shirt... has been out since 2010... I suspect something new will come out this year... Racket maybe? I hope I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WingsAir View Post
    What I don't get is why get two rackets (supposedly the same) and make one a training racket, and then give it different aerodynamics and weight? They're almost completely different rackets now.

    Have you played with it yet?
    Maybe C7 and F9 are model ranges, like 'Arcsaber' or 'TSF' or 'Meteor'?

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