serving!

[malaysianfreak]

what are the rules of serving in badminton? one of it i heard is the shuttle have to be lower than your waist to serve...is it true?

[Gollum]

what are the rules of serving in badminton? one of it i heard is the shuttle have to be lower than your waist to serve...is it true?

Yes, it's true that the shuttle must be below your waist. But the rules define your waist to be the lowest part of your ribcage. This is higher than your shorts (unless you are very unfashionable ).

See my page about faults for more service rules.

[malaysianfreak]

kays...but isn't low serve over your waist? i see some pros in my court serve it higher...are they wrong?

[Gollum]

kays...but isn't low serve over your waist? i see some pros in my court serve it higher...are they wrong?

If they are serving with the shuttle above their waist (i.e. lowest rib), then they are "wrong" (it's a fault).

It's quite difficult to judge, however. Depending on where you're standing, it may be hard to tell.

[Jamma]

I am a new member. This is my first post.

Singles:-
The serve has to be diagonal. It should be longer than the serve line, not extend the back gallery and not go in the side out.
Doubles:-
Diagonal serve, longer than the serve line must not go to the back gallery and can go in the side. Which in in for doubles.

It is advised to do a short serve in doubles and a long serve in singles.
The contact point of the racket and the shuttle MUST be below your waist.

[2wheels04]

Yes, it's true that the shuttle must be below your waist. But the rules define your waist to be the lowest part of your ribcage. This is higher than your shorts (unless you are very unfashionable ).

See my page about faults for more service rules.

The law that apply is:

9.1.4 the server’s racket shall initially hit the base of the shuttle;
9.1.5 the whole shuttle shall be below the server’s waist at the instant of being hit by the server’s racket. The waist shall be considered to be an imaginary line round the body, level with the lowest part of the server’s bottom rib;

This imaginary line level with the bottom rib is difficult to discern in players wearing loose shirts.
This, in my experience (and by others more experienced than me) is generally accepted as level with the bent elbow - not the most accurate of determinations, but correct in most players. The only time this technique will fail is with disproportionate body types, as in long trunks, short legs and vice versa. As for example, such determination will most certainly fail with that American swimmer and multiple gold medallist Phelps, but then purists will argue, we can see his waist very clearly.

At the World Championships (Paris 2010), an experiment was conducted in an off-site hall with feedback using two umpires and players with varying heights. The goal was to demonstrate the feasibility of service error using the metric of maximum height mark. The outcome was that, there needed to be a better method to standardise the height marker using a level stand in determining where the shuttle was hit during serve, rather than the stick and level that were used.

Any service judge worth his/her seat will never ever call a service fault unless absolutely sure (not certainty) that the whole of the shuttle was below the waist when hit with racket during the service delivery.

The shuttle therefore can be held lower than the waist, or held higher, or tossed or dropped, depending on the server's preference, but when the racket hits it propelling it toward the receiver, it better be completely below the waist, and the racket better hit the head (cork) of the shuttle.

[malaysianfreak]

oh....woa din't know serving had so many rile o.oll so...is there any good serving tips? i always do low serve / flick in singles/doubles...

[extremenanopowe]

so, you better tug your shorts up high.. lol.

[visor]

At the World Championships (Paris 2010), an experiment was conducted in an off-site hall with feedback using two umpires and players with varying heights. The goal was to demonstrate the feasibility of service error using the metric of maximum height mark. The outcome was that, there needed to be a better method to standardise the height marker using a level stand in determining where the shuttle was hit during serve, rather than the stick and level that were used.
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There was talk that a standard height marker was going to be used in the future, to reduce the subjective judgment of the service judge. Do you know more about this?

[chris-ccc]

There was talk that a standard height marker was going to be used in the future, to reduce the subjective judgment of the service judge. Do you know more about this?

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I think it is a good idea; That is a standard height marker to be used. And a rule to say that the contact point with the shuttlecock at (Service) must be lower than 1 metre of height.
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[extremenanopowe]

Give and take. Make it 1.5 meters. Just to facilitate those who like to hold shuttles near shoulder level.

[PopsiclePete]

Give and take. Make it 1.5 meters. Just to facilitate those who like to hold shuttles near shoulder level.

Or people like me at 6'3...I'm serving at my hips

[chris-ccc]

Or people like me at 6'3...I'm serving at my hips

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When we talk about the 'standard height marker', we are talking about a height in relation with the net height. It is irrelevant how tall or short we players are.

It is also interesting to note that the net height is also fixed; no such thing like 'Let's lower the net down because we are shorter than the Zulus'.
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[what07]

Just rewrite the rules so that we can use overhead serves like tennis. Problem solve

[PopsiclePete]

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When we talk about the 'standard height marker', we are talking about a height in relation with the net height. It is irrelevant how tall or short we players are.

It is also interesting to note that the net height is also fixed; no such thing like 'Let's lower the net down because we are shorter than the Zulus'.
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But how would you measure that? Because if you have two different sized players, say a 5'6 vs 6'1 player, this imaginary line would be harder to judge wouldn't it?

[chris-ccc]

But how would you measure that? Because if you have two different sized players, say a 5'6 vs 6'1 player, this imaginary line would be harder to judge wouldn't it?

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Perhaps you haven't understood what it (the standard height marker for Service) is meant to be.

It is meant to be the highest height (measured from the floor) that a shuttlecock can be struck at Service.

It has nothing to do with how short or tall we are.
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[PopsiclePete]

OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH...I get it....

or do I?