Coaching in Toronto...

**Jus_anothr_grl** · 04-06-2003, 08:38 PM

does she still even compete or is she too old for juniors?

**Bombshell** · 04-06-2003, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by Nanashi
yeah, she still does...

when i saw her, i was like "woh... she's like yelling at the kids, when did that happen?"

Well, she doesn't exactly yell, but sometimes you have to be firm with younger kids, especially when they don't seem very keen on actually listening to you. Then again, I think a coach should be careful, too, because some innocent kids might feel hurt that they're being scolded for something small, like taking a drink of water during a rally. My lil bro got shouted at by one of the coaches once just because he swung his racquet before anyone told him to, so he threw an absolute tantrum when my mom signed him up for a lesson with that coach in it.

**Jus_anothr_grl** · 04-06-2003, 09:49 PM

which class was that and which coach?

**crazyboy139** · 04-07-2003, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by Phil
crazyboy139: Can you describe to me the players/training in each of the following levels? It is looking that I will probably be able to go to Lee's in the summer each week, so I want to know what level I should enter:

III: Intermediate?
IV: Intermediate/Advanced?
V: Advanced?

Hmm..
About what level you should enter, I think Jus_anothr_grl would be better at answering that.

Level I: For true beginner, ones who don't know how to hold a racquet or high clears and such.
Usually kids take this, oldest was around.. 14, while I was 17

I've learnt nothing but high clear, non stop high clearing. We learnt to drive for half a lesson, cause our group (with Kevin) seemed to advance faster. But went back to high clear the next lesson.

Level I & II (as they call it): Just past beginner, you're expected to know how to high clear.
Age avg 15
So far, in the first lesson, brief recap on how to swing for high clear, and how to hold a racquet. Turns out 10 outta 16 people didn't know how to high clear, cause it was their first time at Lee's and didn't want to join level I with kids. So only us 6 were practising high clears, other people were beginning to learn it. We also learnt to serve the bird. At the end we finished with side skippin and net shots (runnin back and forth as a drill).

I think just Jus_anothr_grl is able to describe all levels, see if she could help.

Levels being
Level I
Level I & II
Level II & III
Level III & IV
Level V

I think, personally, if you got the money and stamina, just go for private lessons.

I would've gone for private, but with 16 people (sep into groups of 8), I'd have 8 people to do the same thing before I have to redo it, so breaks, which I need, cause I ain't in good shape, get tired too easily

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About Annie, yea she still has short hair. Annies a really nice person, but I suppose I was a little too old to be taking too much girl attitude

I don't joke around too much, so she doesn't yell at me, besides, yellin at someone my age is just pointless. I've seen her yell at kids tho.. Wow.. She was like.. Going crazy.. But the kids usually deserve it, so thats alrite. Otherwise Annie is a great coach. I was actually hopin to get into a lesson with her as coach again, but no luck there. She yells, only if you deserve it, otherwise nice gal

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**Jus_anothr_grl** · 04-07-2003, 04:32 PM

Okay. Uhh...

Well, Level II & III, the kids are a bit older. Most of them are 10 and up and you get the occasional 8 yr old somewhere. Umm, the kids do clears, drops, drives, learn a bit about smashes, and during the last class, they might play games.

Level III & IV classes are fun. The people are about 13-15 and friends can be easily made. Uhh, you're expected to know how to do drops, clears, drives and smashes and games are often played at the end of classes. However, footwork can be intense.

Level V is rather a social gathering of people than actual lessons since you're expected to know how to do all the basic moves in badminton. Drills are intense and confusing (well, to me anyway) but you still learn a lot. The environment is a bit more relaxed and people range from 13 - adults. Coaches and assistant coaches are more friendlier and give you more respect and even joke around with you sometimes. Games are played at the end of every class and footwork is not very intense.

That's about what I can remember for now. Hope this helps!

**Bombshell** · 04-07-2003, 09:21 PM

Originally posted by Jus_anothr_grl
which class was that and which coach?

7:30-9PM, Cherry

**Nanashi** · 04-07-2003, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Bombshell
7:30-9PM, Cherry

hahahahaha.... everyone seems to just get along so well with cherry

**Jus_anothr_grl** · 04-07-2003, 10:08 PM

apparently, only jennifer likez her...
i thought troy taught 7:30-9 and cherry taught 6-7:30

**Bombshell** · 04-08-2003, 11:52 AM

Lol really? Guess they switch around. How was the TDCAA tournament?

**Phil** · 04-08-2003, 11:55 AM

Thanks again for the info. I'm going to sign up for Level III & IV classes (if they have the same schedule in the summer as now), since it seems like it will benefit me the most. Intense footwork sounds very appealing to me.

Phil

**Winex West Can** · 04-08-2003, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by Bombshell
Well, she doesn't exactly yell, but sometimes you have to be firm with younger kids, especially when they don't seem very keen on actually listening to you. Then again, I think a coach should be careful, too, because some innocent kids might feel hurt that they're being scolded for something small, like taking a drink of water during a rally. My lil bro got shouted at by one of the coaches once just because he swung his racquet before anyone told him to, so he threw an absolute tantrum when my mom signed him up for a lesson with that coach in it.

As a coach for beginners (especiallys young kids who are just starting out), it is crucial for the coach to go over some safety rules. Swinging racquets in a crowd is a no-no as you could hit someone on the head. Happen to one of my coaching sessions, right after I have told the kids to be quiet and listen up about safety. This one kid fooled around and took a swing with his racquet hitting another boy in the face. Well, you can guess what happen next.

**LazyBuddy** · 04-08-2003, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Bombshell
Well, she doesn't exactly yell, but sometimes you have to be firm with younger kids, especially when they don't seem very keen on actually listening to you. Then again, I think a coach should be careful, too, because some innocent kids might feel hurt that they're being scolded for something small, like taking a drink of water during a rally. My lil bro got shouted at by one of the coaches once just because he swung his racquet before anyone told him to, so he threw an absolute tantrum when my mom signed him up for a lesson with that coach in it.

Well, I can understand ur feeling, but sometimes, I think it's necessary to "set the rule" to prevent something really serious to be happened (like, hitting others in the face).

I know it's very hard the draw a line between "right and wrong", also, depend on the kids and coach's own personality and situation, it's hard to apply different std. every single time. Maybe ur brother did not do that on purpose, and maybe there's nobody next to him, however, what about if everyone starts to think, "ok, no one said anything, so, why can't I do it???"

No one wants to be yelled at, but if we really think we follow the rulez, then, I don't think most coaches are jerks anyway. Introduce rulez eariler and with a little bit restricted std is always better than being a nice guy, while ppl are really hurt later on just due to no regulation or fooling around.

Also, sports can be cruel sometimes. I am not saying coach should be mean or take advantage on little kids. However, with a little bit "harsh" rulez and "push", most of the time, it will benefit students in the future. Little kids who don't really understand a lot of things might feel hurt right at the moments, but when they grow up, most of them will reliaze that most the "harsh treatment" were positive, and good for their later career.

**Bombshell** · 04-08-2003, 10:22 PM

That is true. I suppose it all adds up to the concept of "building character." And you're right, Winex West Can, people can get smacked in the face by a racquet.

**Jus_anothr_grl** · 04-08-2003, 10:25 PM

ture...BUT. i'm a camp counsellor and I deal with the kids with "behavioral problems" and well, i dunno. i tend to the be "softie" and the kids are just fine. I mean, if you're nice to them, they're nice to you.

**Nanashi** · 04-09-2003, 08:31 PM

or they take advantage of you....

**Jus_anothr_grl** · 04-09-2003, 08:40 PM

true...but i DO have my limits...I mean, one of the kids did have to get expelled from the camp

**crazyboy139** · 04-09-2003, 08:56 PM

I agree with "they take advantage of you"
last time I was a leader at a kid's sports camp
the other leaders were strict
cept me
so they always hung (literally) onto me
forcin me to play with them e,lse everyone would sit down to rest with me
one of which got me in trouble cause the kids seemed lazy, which meant I seemed lazy
another one cracked the LCD screen on my phone
just crazy stuff!