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    Default What are the differences between European and Asian badminton superpower?

    There are not much differences between European and Asian Shuttles, those superpowers are not lack in term of Badminton skills, physical, technics, understanding etc...
    But Asians are obviously dominating through out the Badminton history. What are the main reasons behind this phenomenal of Asian invasion. Please share...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickspeed9900 View Post
    There are not much differences between European and Asian Shuttles, those superpowers are not lack in term of Badminton skills, physical, technics, understanding etc...
    But Asians are obviously dominating through out the Badminton history. What are the main reasons behind this phenomenal of Asian invasion. Please share...
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    Please tell us what you think first, that there is not much difference between European and Asian Shuttlers.

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    In term of achievements

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickspeed9900 View Post
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    In terms of achievements, only Denmark is able match up with Asian top 4 Badminton nations, namely China, Korea, Indonesia and Malaysia.

    Have a read of our BWF World Rankings, found located at;
    http://www.bwfbadminton.org/page.aspx?id=14955
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    popularity... sponsorship... govt support... etc...

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    i think in asia beside football, baddy is very popular

    whereas in europe beside football, there are still many popular sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    i think in asia beside football, baddy is very popular

    whereas in europe beside football, there are still many popular sports.
    Badminton players are professionals i.e. to make money to feed themselves and their family. Simply put, badminton does not pay to play professionally in Europe and N. America. Tracey Hallem, when she was ranked WR8 had to get sponsor for a flight to play WC and no coach with her. Mana boleh menang? And Asian players have coach or coaches, nutrionist, massage therapist, even cook (WC in India), plane and hotels book and paid for, huge pay check from govt for WR, matching $$$ for SS winnings, endorsement, reward for major winning in gold, silver ,bronze and $$$ gifts from private citizens...badminton is surely a backyard sport in this part of the world.
    There is no govt funding, no quality training partners, expenses (coaching fee, court fee, even the birds are pricy here, etc) are higher than the rewards or winnings from badminton, and Asian domination does not help...so better of play soccer in Europe and South America, football, ice hockey, baseball, basketball in North America where the paycheck is huge...even swimming, darts, curling, beach volleyball, pole dancing (is this a sport?) pays more than badminton where most players are guaranteed to get some form of joint injury when the players retire and unless the name is PG, pro players need a second job when their services to their nation are no longer welcomed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie View Post
    Badminton players are professionals i.e. to make money to feed themselves and their family. Simply put, badminton does not pay to play professionally in Europe and N. America. Tracey Hallem, when she was ranked WR8 had to get sponsor for a flight to play WC and no coach with her. Mana boleh menang? And Asian players have coach or coaches, nutrionist, massage therapist, even cook (WC in India), plane and hotels book and paid for, huge pay check from govt for WR, matching $$$ for SS winnings, endorsement, reward for major winning in gold, silver ,bronze and $$$ gifts from private citizens...badminton is surely a backyard sport in this part of the world.
    There is no govt funding, no quality training partners, expenses (coaching fee, court fee, even the birds are pricy here, etc) are higher than the rewards or winnings from badminton, and Asian domination does not help...so better of play soccer in Europe and South America, football, ice hockey, baseball, basketball in North America where the paycheck is huge...even swimming, darts, curling, beach volleyball, pole dancing (is this a sport?) pays more than badminton where most players are guaranteed to get some form of joint injury when the players retire and unless the name is PG, pro players need a second job when their services to their nation are no longer welcomed.
    true, once it is popular everything goes

    even your underwear will be paid.

    the first player i admire most was morten frost,

    he must have tons of passion for baddy.

    in fact team sports is more popular until today in europe or america

    and baddy, sad to say, will continue to be the same.

    unless some magic happens. lol

    btw, i wonder what is their past time for sports after when they are 30 - 35 yr old?

    for team sport i don't think they continue after they reach that age.

    maybe pot bellie sports, poker, golf, bowling, fishing, darts...

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    What about playing style? What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickspeed9900 View Post
    What about playing style? What do you guys think?
    Yes, I believe the techniques are different, based on the opinion of a former singles player. Asian players maybe smaller and shorter and less muscularly built, but how do you explain that the world's most powerful and/or most deceptive smashes are Asians?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    Yes, I believe the techniques are different, based on the opinion of a former singles player. Asian players maybe smaller and shorter and less muscularly built, but how do you explain that the world's most powerful and/or most deceptive smashes are Asians?
    I mean a former Hong Kong singles player.

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    I think it's just a cycle. Dominating countries changes periodically. European (mainly Denmark) used to dominate at one time with Peter Gade in late 90's, and Denmark MD JE/ML was the power house in 2006 I believe. It's only a matter of time that there'll be a raising star from the European countries.

    But I think that other countries are suffering is do to gene pool. In Asia, there's many top level shuttlers thus give great sparing partner, or motivation to to surpass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_fanatic View Post
    I think it's just a cycle. Dominating countries changes periodically. European (mainly Denmark) used to dominate at one time with Peter Gade in late 90's, and Denmark MD JE/ML was the power house in 2006 I believe. It's only a matter of time that there'll be a raising star from the European countries.

    But I think that other countries are suffering is do to gene pool. In Asia, there's many top level shuttlers thus give great sparing partner, or motivation to to surpass.
    Denmark has always been strong in badminton but it has never won the Thomas Cup even once. Only three countries, China, Malaysia, and Indonesia have won it since its inception in the 1940s. Other great badminton countries that have faded from the scene are the US and to some extent India but the latter is making a comeback.

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    if we talk about thomas cup or uber cup, its a team event,

    a team must consists of many world class beater inside.

    as for the european i think they will not even come close to this,

    one or two players emerged from these countries maybe possible

    definitely not for a team event.


    even other asian countries like india or even malaysia finds it hard year after year.

    the domination by china is too strong for many year to come followed by indonesia.

    as for malaysia who has won many times in the past is currently facing very strong contender like korea and japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    if we talk about thomas cup or uber cup, its a team event,

    a team must consists of many world class beater inside.

    as for the european i think they will not even come close to this,

    one or two players emerged from these countries maybe possible

    definitely not for a team event.


    even other asian countries like india or even malaysia finds it hard year after year.

    the domination by china is too strong for many year to come followed by indonesia.

    as for malaysia who has won many times in the past is currently facing very strong contender like korea and japan.
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    Talking about the Uber Cup, here are the past winners;

    * CHN........11 times
    * JPN...........5 times
    * INA...........3 times
    * USA..........3 times
    * KOR...........Once
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    And for the Thomas Cup, here are the past winners;

    * INA.........13 times
    * CHN.........8 times
    * MAS.........5 times

    DEN were often close to win once. They were 8 times runners-up.
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