Unallocated dsk space

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  1. viver

    viver Regular Member

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    Hi, I have a 160 Gb IDE hard drive. I have created 2 partitions - 1 of 100 Gb (C:) and another of 60Gb (D:) and installed Windows XP on C drive. If I go to My Computer and check the properties, the C and D drives have approximately 160 Gb.

    My question is, with a Disk Management program (Easeus), it reports the C and D drives with roughly the reported sizes plus 15 Gb of Unallocated Disk Space? I have clearly specified the partitions sizes during installation (100 + 60) and should not leave any unallocated disk space. :confused:

    I have Googled about Unallocated Disk Space but could not find information about this scenario. Can somebody help?

    Thanks.
     
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    Want to reclaim all that space?

    There's a pretty good free software called Gparted available on all Ubuntu LiveCD distros that can do almost everything what commercial software such as PartitionMagic can do, for free.
     
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    viver Regular Member

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    I can reclaim that space, but before I do that, is there a reason why there is disk space unallocated. I created 2 partitions and formatted them, 1 with 100 Gb and another 60 Gb - that should take all the 160 Gb of disk space.
     
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    Discussed with some tech heads over here, it seems like we're in a bit of a pickle:

    One (definite) possibility is the marketing gimmick - 160GB hard disk in actual fact is approximately 156.25GB only. The net 'loss' is about 3.75 GB only.

    So where did the rest of the 11.25GB go to?

    I'm taking a guess that its an NTFS overhead - I've been reading the numbers 12.5% being used by the Master File Table (MFT)

    http://www.ntfs.com/ntfs_optimization.htm

    By the way I think you can't get back the 15GB of loss space.
     
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    viver Regular Member

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    Hi Wilfredlgf, I think you could be right. I disk management shows partition C and D and the unallocated disk space size of 15 Gb. The software allows to to reclaim that space, but I was unsure since I did not see the FAT or MFT shown anywhere. Just wanted to see if anybody had experienced this before. I will not try to reclaim that space... at least for now. When I decide to reformat the drive, I might try before doing the reformat to see what's the result! Thank you for your quick reply and information. Hope your team, Liverpool will do well this year!
     
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    That's just an educated guess viv dude but experience shows that you are never going to get 100% of the space after a format - the bigger the drive the more you will lose.

    I'm not sure if this thing is unique to Windows - I'm currently looking at EXT4 and I have all of the 500GB available, although some space is taken by default by the journaling feature.
     
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    Did you enter "100GB" or "100.000.000.000" bytes? (=93GB + 55GB) http://egret.net/kb__mb.htm

    Never mind that: 160GB already is ~149GB (I have the same disk in right now C 49,03GB and D 100,01GB and no unallocated space)
     
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    It also meant ''everything''--''everything'' of what we think are deleted/formatted are in fact sitting on those obnoxious frontier! That's just the way it should me done for security reasons.
     
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    The disk was formatted with Windows XP and in NTFS. As I remember (well, that was done a few years back), when I got the hard drive new I specified the partitions size as required during the format process - now I forgot if it was 100 and 60 or 65% for primary partition and 35% for secondary, but it kind of add up the disk total size. On second thought, that unallocated disk space is shown at the end after the D drive. I would have thought the FAT would sit at the beginning of the disk, before the C drive... Anyways I will let you know after I re-format the drive.
     

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