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    Very good player... Lack for

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    He was the key and man of the match in the WC final win yesterday.

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    Agreed. I think he was the better one in the final out of the four.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byakuugan View Post
    Agreed. I think he was the better one in the final out of the four.
    And his strokes of smash/drop are the same motion, which is seriously deceiving.

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    Well done Shin! Fantastic final!

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    Shin played excellently in the final. No fear at all the last two sets.

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    Great match, everyone wrote them off in the final and he and Ko played fantastic. I like LYD and Yoo but I would love this pair to really push on

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    My favourite player - clever, accurate, outstanding at the net, and probably the best defence in a national squad of utter brick walls.

    Medal contender in Rio, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    and probably the best defence in a national squad of utter brick walls.
    SBC is very good in defence no question, but I would still say LYD is the best defensively in the Korean team. He certainly possesses the most consistent and seemingly effortless defense imo even though he has lost a bit of his shine since JJS retired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R20190 View Post
    SBC is very good in defence no question, but I would still say LYD is the best defensively in the Korean team. He certainly possesses the most consistent and seemingly effortless defense imo even though he has lost a bit of his shine since JJS retired.
    I'd say Shin plays a more constructive defence than LYD; Lee just lifts and lifts and lifts until he gets a weak one, while Shin is able to turn the shot pretty much every time - his "inside out" crosscourt backhand is probably his signature defensive shot, actually.

    Weird to see a tall player defending so well... they usually look like they're made of springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    My favourite player - clever, accurate, outstanding at the net, and probably the best defence in a national squad of utter brick walls.

    Medal contender in Rio, hands down.
    I'm just curious as to why there's not as much consistency with SBC/KSH unlike LYD/YYS... they're pretty solid too imo.

    Is KSH still the weaker link in a duo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by esppy View Post
    I'm just curious as to why there's not as much consistency with SBC/KSH unlike LYD/YYS... they're pretty solid too imo.

    Is KSH still the weaker link in a duo?
    Ko and Shin are regularly reaching quarters and semis these days, but I do think Ko is the weaker link... again. He's definitely weaker defensively, makes the more errors, and is less able to place his smashes for maximum damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    Ko and Shin are regularly reaching quarters and semis these days, but I do think Ko is the weaker link... again. He's definitely weaker defensively, makes the more errors, and is less able to place his smashes for maximum damage.
    But Ko's physique... man, it's daunting.

    Just something I noticed; but SBC's rear court smashes aren't as steep? Or maybe it's just the camera angle of the court...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark A View Post
    I'd say Shin plays a more constructive defence than LYD; Lee just lifts and lifts and lifts until he gets a weak one, while Shin is able to turn the shot pretty much every time - his "inside out" crosscourt backhand is probably his signature defensive shot, actually.

    Weird to see a tall player defending so well... they usually look like they're made of springs.
    I see what you’re saying, but I’m of a different opinion… when under pressure, LYD does play a lot of cross-courts defensive shots on both forehand and backhand… in-to-out or not….

    But as you say, mostly he would lift them. I don’t think it’s because he can’t play like SBC, but he might be playing the percentage game, “lifting it” is perhaps the safer shot to play… there's probably an element of psychology involved in this shot as it is frustrating and tiring for the smasher to repeatedly get high lifts back.

    Lee’s weakness is in areas beyond his immediate reach, otherwise defensively, in my book, he is second to none. There are others that are also good in this department, Shin, Endo, Hayakawa to name a few, but being able to get incredible attacking shots back is one thing, having the ability to do it consistently, effortlessly and effectively is another. And for me, LYD has this ability in abundance…

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    Quote Originally Posted by esppy View Post
    I'm just curious as to why there's not as much consistency with SBC/KSH unlike LYD/YYS... they're pretty solid too imo.

    Is KSH still the weaker link in a duo?
    I think you've said it really.

    One of the strengths of the LYD/YYS partnership is their consistency. That accounts for a lot, when you see them play, it is as if they are playing a 95% game. They don't go all out on everything, unlike the Chinese players for example - which is why they are able to come back so often to win matches when they lose the first game.

    Theirs is more of a controlled aggression game imo.

    KSH is the weaker link no doubt, but when he's on form and concentrating well he too can produce the goods. It's a shame he has to play at 110% to do that - especially in defense.

    SBC is more consistent but one person doesn't make a partnership and players are bound to expose the weakest link as they did when KSH played with LYD.

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    I really think KSH is undervalued. He plays with a mediocre-at-best partner in the mixed, and still gives even the best pairs a good match. I think he'll keep in those top-rankings in the near future, whoever he plays with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SolsticeOfLight View Post
    I really think KSH is undervalued. He plays with a mediocre-at-best partner in the mixed, and still gives even the best pairs a good match. I think he'll keep in those top-rankings in the near future, whoever he plays with.
    Yup, I agree. Someone like Eom would be good for him. But there are situations where he does crack under pressure big time, and his trademark "WHOA OEI OHHHH" scream disappears. All too clear a sign to the opponent he is under stress and would invade him further.

    Call me biased but I would like to see him and LYD have a go at it again, frankly...


    Here's really hoping SBC/KSH can get into top 4 soon

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