So higher tension yields better control, lower power, and vice-versa. And a stiffer racquet yields better control, lower power, and vice-versa. Now, my question is, what happens with certain combinations of racquet stiffness and string tensions. Does a stiff racquet with low tension strings perform the same way as a flexible racquet with high tension? Do they cancel out? Or would the stiff/low tension one be better at say drop from the back, but not as good at net play, and say the flexible/high tension racquet be better at net play and not as accurate with drops from the back. Of course, stiff racquet with high tension will have better control and less power, and a flexible racquet with low tension will have horrid control but good power. (correct me if I'm wrong please) So, for my convenience , could you guys fill in the blanks below for me: (put something like good, excellent, poor, etc. after the characteristics such as Control, Power, etc.) Stiff Racquet/High Tension yields; Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): Control for net shots (delicacy): Power for clears, smashes : Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: Stiff Racquet/Low Tension yields; Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): Control for net shots (delicacy): Power for clears, smashes : Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: Flexible Racquet/High Tension yields; Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): Control for net shots (delicacy): Power for clears, smashes : Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: Flexible Racquet/Low Tension yields; Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): Control for net shots (delicacy): Power for clears, smashes : Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: Feel free to add any comments as you wish. (such as "this has been discussed before," or "you are a stupid idiot.") Thanks, Phil
I don't think the cancel each other out. A flexible shaft or low tension strings add unpredictability to the shot... there's not way to get that unpredicable feeling back... you can only try to avoid adding more imprecision. Personally, i prefer a stiff racquet with lower tension strings than a flexible shaft with high tension strings.
Just my personal experience, maybe varied depend on different ppl Stiff Racquet/Low Tension yields; Sample: Cab20ms (20lb), Yangyang Tactic 8500 (21lb) Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): good Control for net shots (delicacy): excellent Power for clears, smashes : good Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: excellent Flexible Racquet/Low Tension yields; Sample: Babolat Satelite Synchro (22lb) Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): ok (less than good) Control for net shots (delicacy): good Power for clears, smashes : excellent Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: excellent
Trash talk might be fun, but the receiving end might not think so. Strongly not encouraged. Plus, I think ppl who refuse to take other's pt. of view, is actually the s***** i**** ...
I hear the first phrase thrown around quite often... the latter... I don't think anyone's said the latter yet
I think we can refrain from derogatory comments which are not constructive. Any further comments of such nature will be deleted. Thank you for your attention.
Racket Sample: Stiff Racket/High Tesnion = Ti-10 CP @ ~24-25lbs /w BG 70Pro Stiff Racket/Low Tension = Ti-10 SP @ ~18-20lbs /w BG 85 Stiff Racquet/High Tension yields; Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): GOOD Control for net shots (delicacy): GOOD Power for clears, smashes : FAIR Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: FAIR Stiff Racquet/Low Tension yields; Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): FAIR (but definately not as accurate as higher tension) Control for net shots (delicacy): FAIR Power for clears, smashes : GOOD Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: GOOD (but too good sometimes) The above results may not be accurate for my skills are not yet anywhere close to the more experinced players on the forum
Apparently, there's nothing on stiffness in the FAQ...and the search results for "Stiffness" as the topic has lead me to this thread with the most replies. The theory behind this isn't quite fully developed. So far my flexible Cab 7 Long has been "producing" less power and repulsion than my MP77, even thought it is more flexible and at a lower tension. See my full description here. I think that a complete theory on tension and stiffness would make a good sticky, if someone can summarize all that we know so far in the current threads, and to prove theory using a reasonable number of test cases.
Reply, anyone? *BUMP* It would really help people who are considering buying rackets, since they may want to know how stiffness the racket's feel.
Re: Re: Combinations of racquet stiffness and string tension Racket Sample: Stiff Racket/High Tesnion = Ti-10 CP @ ~28lbs /w BG 70Pro Stiff Racket/Low Tension = Ti-10 CP @ ~28lbs /w BG 80 Stiff Racquet/High Tension BG70 Pro yields; Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): GOOD Control for net shots (delicacy): GOOD Power for clears, smashes : GOOD Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: GOOD Stiff Racquet/High Tension BG80 yields; Control for overhead shots/drives/slices (accuracy): GOOD Control for net shots (delicacy): GOOD Power for clears, smashes : GOOD Repulsion such as quick drives and net kills: GOOD I guess it's just how you hit it. You hit smashes rite with enough torque things go booming off the racket, if you dont hit it rite it just flops or turns into line drives. All I gotta say is more practice The above results may not be accurate for my skills are not yet anywhere close to the more experinced players on the forum[/B][/QUOTE]
Yes. It just no one has a lot of racquets to test it out. Would any member do the honer to do the test if he/she has more than 20 racquet in hand. My proposed test is to get a platform (or a table) that is at lease 3.5 ft height. Get a wood clamp and secure a racquet on the platform. Get a weight that is 10 or 15 lb and tie a string to it with a hook. Hook the weight to the end of shaft and measure the weight from the ground. Repeat the same procedure for other racquet, this will give you the relative shaft stiffness. Do the same procedure with weight hang on the top of the frame. This will give you the relative stiffness of the racquets. Use Cab 20 origional as THE reference point 1. This is just a suggestion.
One difference I can see between a stiff-all-over (presumably from UHM graphite) racket like Ti-10 and other rackets I have come across is that Ti-10 has superior directional accuracy. Using ultra low tension on Ti-10 doesn't detract from its accuracy. In my view, the sitffer the racket, the smaller the number of moving parts, and greater the accuracy. A second hand, possibly third or even forth hand, Ti-10 I bought was very noticeable less accurate. The racket was no longer stiff from many years of use by various owners.
