"Secret Weapons" in Badminton training

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  1. Loh

    Loh Regular Member

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    The current discussion on Li Mao's imminent departure from Korea's KBA to join Indonesia's PBSI is perceived by some to be a good move to inject new impetus and change to Indonesia's "old" methods of training particularly singles players.

    Indonesia's singles department is seen to be fading away slowly in the international badminton arena as its best players seem unable to defeat the best that China (in particular), Korea and Malaysia have on offer. Other up-and-coming countries like Japan, Thailand and Taiwan are causing some concern too. And it wasn't too long ago when Indonesia was king in singles as well as in doubles.

    Is it true that Indonesia needs to overhaul its training methods? Are there "secret weapons" that Indonesia's opponents possess which Indonesia can learn from. Perhaps foreign coaches like Li Mao who have 'great credentials' could be engaged to make a difference?

    While it is true that suitably qualified foreign coaches can make some contribution to training, this cannot completely bring the trainees on par with the best in a relatively short time. The best players in other countries can be captured in action on the video camera which the coaching staff can exploit fully through post-match analysis and strategies could be mapped out to counter the opponents' strengths and capitalize on their weaknesses. But despite this, players still lose to the same opponent on a head-to-head basis.

    Often times the most harding working players during training are the ones likely to succeed. Constant repetition of the same strokes to perfection under different conditions is the target and when this is mastered, together with the upgrading of the players' fitness, it is then left to the players' mental toughness and passion to decide whether he will become the eventual champion.

    Well this is what most players have been doing, more or less. Coaches are employing about the same methods to do the job. Nothing quite so new. So it is a matter of whose palyer's form is better on the day to determine the winner. Some days you win, some days you lose!

    So how can the player be helped to improve his performance to a new high peak? Are there any "secret weapons"? Is Li Mao, LYB or Tang sifu the secret weapon? ;)

    With nothing much more to add to the old training methods, my thoughts turn to science, not that this is entirely new, but maybe not so well received and consulted. Remember badminton, as in most other games, is an art as well as a science.

    Coaches should seek and welcome the help of 'sports scientists', who are specialists in their respective areas. They can offer help to optimize the resources of the player, his natural build, his mental abilities and limitation, so that he is able to make the best use of his capabilities. So we need to learn more about biomechanics; fitness training for strength, stamina, agility, etc; nutrition; mental strength, etc and how best these could be applied to the player in question.

    Problem is some countries are not so well developed in sports science, unlike China, US and Australia for example, and they may not have a well-established sports institute to be able to perform all the functions needed to assist the player.

    What do you think? :)
     
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    I totally agree about bringing in more science and customization of training programs. Only a few days ago I happened to read in the paper online about a dutch coach who is highly regarded for his "periodisation" and more quality than quantity hours .
    http://twitter.com/raymondverheije
    Here is a book by him: http://books.google.nl/books?id=ZcI...resnum=14&ved=0CGIQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

    A quote from an article he linked to on his twitter: "Oregon does no discrete conditioning during practice, no "gassers" - the sideline-to-sideline sprints that are staples in many programs - and no "110s" - sprints from the goal line to the back of the opposite end zone. The practice itself serves as conditioning. Just as they do during games, Oregon's players run play after play - offensive sets; punt and kickoff returns and coverages; field goals; late-game two-minute drills - but at a pace that exceeds what they can achieve on Saturdays". Heard the same thing about the danish training: no specific conditioning excercises during training, the training itself is serves the purpose.

    Wish I had known what is officialy called "movement science" also covers sports science. Had no idea when I got this brochure in high school :D most sports labelled related studies were for an education level lower (we used to have a system before bachelor-master where the highest highschool level got you straight into a 4-year masters equivalent program and the level below being a 4-year bachelor equivalent).
    Did spent a good few hours in the university library reading up though later on, still have loads of german articles lying around. Very interesting stuff imo
     
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    Have to add regarding the danish: I assume there are no specific conditioning excercises during national team training. I have seen Jan Ø Jorgensen go jogging so either in off-season or individual time they could still be working on their stamina, etc. ...
     
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    Bringing in science would help

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    Bringing in science would surely help in areas such as for building up speed, stamina, strength, etc...

    However, I have always compared playing Badminton with playing Chess, where skill (knowledge-wise) and strategy are important.

    In Badminton, I have often seen players with better speed, stamina, strength, strokes, etc... performing not as well as players who are more knowledgeable in how to put together a plan of action, to use whatever little they have, to win a match.
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    But there is still a difference in terms of pure fitness vs being match fit and having the right energy level, nutrition, bloodtests/values, etc.
    Something like this has it's benefits as well: http://www.omegawave.com/
     

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