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02-06-2011, 10:04 PM #18
02-06-2011, 10:05 PM #19
At the moment the birdie touches the ground, then according the 15.2, the game is no longer "in play". Therefore whether the receiver touches the net is irrelevant and 13.4.1 has no application. 13.4.1 says "it shall be a fault if, in play, a player touches the net or its supports with racket, person or dress." In conclusion, since the striker touches the net after the birdie touches the ground, the strike wins the point.
Btw, I do not think the timing of the umpire's call is relevant either. It is what the players and the shutters do which are relevant.
Last edited by pcll99; 02-06-2011 at 10:14 PM.
02-06-2011, 10:25 PM #20
yes that is correct
and quite often we don't have umpires sitting by the side to help us during recreational club play
so the players have to know the rules and laws
02-06-2011, 10:28 PM #21
just in case other thing happens almost at the same time
Here is a real case, player tries to tap and instead of sending shuttle down he sent it straight to the baseline
Hence the umpire shouted fault after his racket touches the net cord.
Here, to the umpire he saw the racket head touches the net cord
before he turn his head to see what happens to the shuttle...
Naturally of course
02-06-2011, 10:36 PM #22
Does the umpire has a obligation to call out loud a fault?? Or is it simply a right, not an obligation?
Also should the umpire says whose fault?? Like during servicing... I notice this is the only time when umpire would call out loud a "receiver's fault call" or "service fault call"
Last edited by pcll99; 02-06-2011 at 10:40 PM.
02-06-2011, 11:22 PM #23
02-06-2011, 11:29 PM #24
17.6 An umpire shall:
17.6.1 uphold and enforce the Laws of Badminton and, especially, call a ‘fault’ or a ‘let’ should either occur;
17.6.2 give a decision on any appeal regarding a point of dispute, if made before the next service is delivered;
17.6.3 ensure players and spectators are kept informed of the progress of the match;
17.6.4 appoint or replace line judges or a service judge in consultation with the Referee;
17.6.5 where another technical official is not appointed, arrange for that official’s duties to be carried out;
17.6.6 where an appointed official is unsighted, carry out that official’s duties or play a ‘let’;
17.6.7 record and report to the Referee all matters relating to Law 16; and
17.6.8 refer to the Referee all unsatisfied appeals on questions of law only. (Such appeals must be made before the next service is delivered or, if at the end of the match, before the side that appeals has left the court.)
Law 16 refers to "CONTINUOUS PLAY, MISCONDUCT & PENALTIES"
That is why I said the sequence of events is important to the umpire. Which event comes first? The shuttle touches the ground or body of the receiver first or the contact with the racket or with the body of the striker? The umpire must call "FAULT" when it occurs so that the next fault that comes after e.g.hitting the net, will not count.
During service it is the Service Judge who has to call out "FAULT" and in the absence of one, the umpire will do it.
02-06-2011, 11:43 PM #25
thanks... this discussion is very useful...
17.6.8 is something I didn't know before..... appeal on question of law only!!!!
02-06-2011, 11:54 PM #26
So be careful if you engage yourself with mr.loh in badminton,
you may get away with the fact but not the law...
02-06-2011, 11:59 PM #27
04-09-2011, 09:52 AM #28
Please help me out with my net kill, my racket often touches the net (so it is a fault, right ?), especially backhand net kill !
04-09-2011, 10:38 AM #29
04-09-2011, 04:39 PM #30
04-28-2011, 07:57 PM #31
Is it also a fault if your racket goes over the net? I.e on to the side of the opponent, if even by a few inches?
04-28-2011, 08:00 PM #32
13.4.2 invades an opponent's court over the net with racket or person except that the striker may follow the shuttle over the net with the racket in the course of a stroke after the initial point of contact with the shuttle is on the striker's side of the net;
Last edited by visor; 04-28-2011 at 08:02 PM.
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