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    Thanks for the comparison

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    No problem.

    MX80 is my go-to racket now. I love it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yumyumtaco View Post
    Mine is 4UG2 strung with zymax 62 and overgripped with RKEP G09 white but only has a bp of 290mm.
    Another thing I found with my MX80 is that it is a bit longer than my NS9000x, ARC8DX, AT900T, ARCZS and significantly longer than my Ti-7
    Aha! Finally!! My MX80 is also longer than my other rackets by about 3-4mm. However, gripped with RKEP ELITE with BG66UM my BP is around 297mm. So it's a bit head heavier than yours. 3UG5(Yonex scale) here. I know some users whose BP is above 300mm!

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    Naim

    what colour elite are you using? white?
    that would be the lightest, so it'll give you head heaviest

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Naim

    what colour elite are you using? white?
    that would be the lightest, so it'll give you head heaviest
    Yes White. Indeed the lightest colour. Switched back to Yonex Super Grap (yellow) now and it's roughly the same BP still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naim.F.C View Post
    Aha! Finally!! My MX80 is also longer than my other rackets by about 3-4mm. However, gripped with RKEP ELITE with BG66UM my BP is around 297mm. So it's a bit head heavier than yours. 3UG5(Yonex scale) here. I know some users whose BP is above 300mm!
    I'm really not convinced that changing the grip makes significant difference to the effectiveness or dynamics of the racket. Not sure if you've been reading my recent posts, but I've been writing about this a lot. Basically since your hand is the "fulcrum" of the racket when you swing it, changing the weight (by a few grams here and there) at this point is going to be negligible. If you put extra weight further away from the fulcrum (eg. on the head of the racket), then this would contribute much more significantly and make the racket effectively more head heavy.

    For example, my apacs Lethal 70 has a balance point of more than 310mm with strings and with original grip. When I remove the original grip and add a significantly thicker grip, the balance point obviously changes, but when I swing the racket, it still feels just as head heavy.

    Anyway, just a word of caution in case someone dwells on balance point changes from grip changes.

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    ^^
    In a way, the hand is the fulcrum but in a way, it's not.
    Because the whole hand is not static during the stroke, it is thrown forward and a few grams does make a difference.
    It can make the difference between a 3U racket vs a 4U racket.

    But is also depends on your sensitivity to minute changes in weight and bp...
    I can sense a 5mm bp shift, and Naim can sense a 2g difference in weight with his bare hands!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ssj100 View Post
    I'm really not convinced that changing the grip makes significant difference to the effectiveness or dynamics of the racket. Not sure if you've been reading my recent posts, but I've been writing about this a lot. Basically since your hand is the "fulcrum" of the racket when you swing it, changing the weight (by a few grams here and there) at this point is going to be negligible. If you put extra weight further away from the fulcrum (eg. on the head of the racket), then this would contribute much more significantly and make the racket effectively more head heavy.
    I agree with this 100%

    I've also measured the exact weights of factory, over and replacement grips, and generally the difference is only 2g, give or take. Factor in your statement above and it's so insignificant it's not even worth mentioning.

    This is why you cannot just state BP and weight and expect to know how a racket is going to play out on the court!

    You can have two rackets with the exact same BP and weight, and one will carry it's weight evenly, and the other carry it's weight in the head, and they'll feel and play completely differently.

    In the same way head heavier rackets flex the shaft more than less head heavy ones, so if you have two rackets that are the same stiffness but one is head heavier, the head heavier one will feel more flexible.

    This is why we have these discussions, because numbers don't tell you the whole story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    ^^
    In a way, the hand is the fulcrum but in a way, it's not.
    Because the whole hand is not static during the stroke, it is thrown forward and a few grams does make a difference.
    It can make the difference between a 3U racket vs a 4U racket.

    But is also depends on your sensitivity to minute changes in weight and bp...
    I can sense a 5mm bp shift, and Naim can sense a 2g difference in weight with his bare hands!
    This is true. I did a blind test at least 5 times and I guessed which was the red RKEP grip and which was white each and every time. Not that I use cocaine or anything (don't drink, smoke or do drugs), but even 2g must be noticeable. Don't drug users buy cocaine and other such drugs in grams?

    That said, just because I could tell the difference as to which grip was heavier, doesn't mean I'd notice a difference in real world use.

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    Just noticed that I cant get 4U in malaysia. Would the 3U one suffice instead ? LOL !

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    I just called AJ Racket (Puchong, Malaysia) and they said that the MX-80 is sold out.. and they actually sold it at RM800!!! WTH, these guys are over-pricing this racket! My goodness, if I'm not mistaken an MX-80 should cost <RM500.. Just a heads up from a observant badminton shopper..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phydhel View Post
    I just called AJ Racket (Puchong, Malaysia) and they said that the MX-80 is sold out.. and they actually sold it at RM800!!! WTH, these guys are over-pricing this racket! My goodness, if I'm not mistaken an MX-80 should cost <RM500.. Just a heads up from a observant badminton shopper..
    Malaysia RRP published by FAR EAST if i not mistaken was RM799.00 same as RRP for Yonex..Voltric 80 which means they sell it without discount.. and gosh its still sold out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phydhel View Post
    I just called AJ Racket (Puchong, Malaysia) and they said that the MX-80 is sold out.. and they actually sold it at RM800!!! WTH, these guys are over-pricing this racket! My goodness, if I'm not mistaken an MX-80 should cost <RM500.. Just a heads up from a observant badminton shopper..
    Victor increase the price of their racket in Singapore, Indonesia and Malaysia if I'm not wrong

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    i went to AJ .. more than a week ago. saw MX80 .. and talked to the lady tauke. it was selling at RM600 .. with grip n string .. i didn't take it .. but i'm pretty sure on the price !!

    mmmm .. r u sure they r selling at RM800?

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    yesterday I just broke the string (VS850 gauge 0.68 mm @t 28 lbs) on my MX80 after defending from an incredible powerful smash from a 22 years old kid
    my MX80 is 3U G2 weight 85.4 grams, string 2.8 grams and overgrip Yonex Super Grab 5.7 grams
    total weight is 93.9 grams

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    Quote Originally Posted by jump-smash View Post
    yesterday I just broke the string (VS850 gauge 0.68 mm @t 28 lbs) on my MX80 after defending from an incredible powerful smash from a 22 years old kid
    my MX80 is 3U G2 weight 85.4 grams, string 2.8 grams and overgrip Yonex Super Grab 5.7 grams
    total weight is 93.9 grams
    how much time has your VS 850 last ? Does it lose its tension quickly as many people have said. thanks

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    I don't know about tension loss
    all I know that it only last in about two months ...
    I only play twice a week maximum
    sometimes only once a week
    and lately beside MX80 I also use SW37
    Last edited by jump-smash; 05-02-2011 at 08:45 AM.

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