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    Quote Originally Posted by danielwong View Post
    Tuesday December 21, 2010

    The Star
    Chong Wei: Even Lin Dan’s coach will be of no help

    By RAJES PAUL

    IPOH: World No. 1 Lee Chong Wei says that Malaysian back-up shuttlers will not go anywhere if they do not change their attitude.
    And there was sarcasm in his voice when he said that even Lin Dan’s coach, Tang Hsienhu, will not be able to make world beaters out of Malaysia’s current batch of back-up squad players.
    Chong Wei was frustrated with lack of enthusiasm showed by the squad comprising Liew Daren, Chan Kwong Beng, Chong Wei Feng, Tan Chun Seang and Mohd Arif Abdul Latif.He is getting more and more annoyed with the situation. After all, he has held the status as the country’s top shuttler for far too long. On Sunday, he stretched his invincibility on the local circuit to eight years by winning the Perak Open.
    The 28-year-old Chong Wei said that the back-up players would have to save their own skin.
    “It’s not about the coaches. Malaysia have Misbun (Sidek), Rashid (Sidek) and even Hendrawan. But they cannot help these players if they do not do their part,” he said.
    “We can even bring in Lin Dan’s coach but he too will not be able to do anything about it.”
    After sparring with them for a year, Chong Wei has noted their weaknesses.
    “I am disappointed with their attitude. Daren had no explanation when I asked him the reason for his defeat at the Hong Kong Open (recently). He said he did not know what went wrong,” said Chong Wei.
    “One should be able to analyse his game and understand why he won or lost.
    “Arif is a player from the same batch as Kenichi Tago of Japan. Tago gave me a tough fight at the All-England final this year but I did not see the same fire from Arif (in the semi-finals of the Perak Open).
    “We have a group of players who depend too much dependant on the coaches. They are neither analytical nor want to go the extra mile.
    “From my observation, they are unable to cope with the drills every day of a week. They slow down half way. This is same attitude they show on the court. They give up when the pressure gets to them.”
    Chong Wei hoped that the so called “future stars” would buck up by showing better commitment in training and competitions.
    “I have come a long way and there is no short cut. It is all about hard work,” he said.
    “I hope the back-up players will show better attitude and start making their presence felt in local and international tournaments next year to save their own badminton careers.”



    # so much highlight that I choose not to make it bold....
    anyway I trust our LCW words is more meaningful than typical supporters like us...
    what he saw is real than our coffee shop chat....
    I must take my hat off to LCW for speaking bluntly on the attitude and commitment of the back-up players who have not been performing at all in both the local and international tournaments. This is despite their being in the BAM program for some time and under the charge of very good local and foreign coaches who were champions in their heydays. The coaches can only do that much and the players themselves must do their part.
    It is getting very monotonous to see the winning script written over and over again with MHH coming in second to LCW in most tournaments.
    LCW meant well on his observation and he is not known to vent his frustration publicly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    no worry
    i will open a new thread on the elite back up/back up2011 after copenhagen master
    cheer
    What opening a new thread has to do with Datuklee's furry?

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    LCW should know what's going on best inside the squad. If he makes a statement like that, I would take it as true. Lazy, not willing to work hard, tidak apa attitude... I think many of us know that some players in MS are already like that (e.g. Arif) but there is nothing we can do if they are not willing to take the initiative.

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    The problem with the back up shuttlers is not new. Its only the first time someone prominent chose to highlight the issue to the media and spoke in a harsh tone. The main point of the whole discussion is what BAM gonna do or could do about it knowing the main problem that haunts this batch of players is their negative attitude. In China they are long gone. Even HH is make to retire long ago. Now the question is given due time and umpteen chances but still no improvements from these players, what decision should be made by BAM? The root cause here is BAM's system and implementation as a whole and not the players because players come and go. Its always the association that governs the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    LCW should know what's going on best inside the squad. If he makes a statement like that, I would take it as true. Lazy, not willing to work hard, tidak apa attitude... I think many of us know that some players in MS are already like that (e.g. Arif) but there is nothing we can do if they are not willing to take the initiative.
    It is the best words to describe young generations now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dato A View Post
    It is the best words to describe young generations now.
    It is true but why it only happens to young Malaysian shuttlers? There are young people everywhere in the world and I dont see it affected Chen Long and company. I dont see Indonesian young players as bad in term of performances. It is not a problem at all to Japan and Korean backups.

    Generally yes but not necessarily.

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    Although LCW seems to be shifting the weight to the players, I would still like to put part of the blame on the coaches for not enforcing rules and ticking off the backup players. Don't they have to give in reports on the players monthly?

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    Went to a site visit today and came by a company whose owner was once just a mail boy but now own a company with a MYR5 million in profit... his story of our young generations nowadays is a match to our Dato A's statement and I do believe so too... They lack enthusiasm... don't want to study well but dream of working in the office, wearing smart office attire when a carpenter work could earn them MYR5,000 a month... but they refuse just because the pressure from the work itself... there is indeed no short cut in earning success... but I guess they prefer to ignore the fact...

    Back to our back-up shuttlers... I only wish BAM takes the same action as our Takraw assoc - dropped the underperformers from the national team - because I think even the reports from the coaches must have mentioned how these shuttlers perform on daily basis as well as during tournaments but BAM is the one having the final say... even if their reports didn't say so, BAM should realize about the situation and act accordingly and not keep feeding those lazy bums... there is also a limit for giving chances... *sigh*

    oh, btw, how to tick off dead stick la? ^_^ I do think they got that everyday, that's why cannot stand lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    LCW should know what's going on best inside the squad. If he makes a statement like that, I would take it as true. Lazy, not willing to work hard, tidak apa attitude... I think many of us know that some players in MS are already like that (e.g. Arif) but there is nothing we can do if they are not willing to take the initiative.
    Good thing you mentioned MS, as MD back up known to be very hardworking
    As for the 5 muskeeters, as far I'm concerned, already switch focus to Iskandar & gang ages ago. The other problem is, if they want to resign,cannot, can happen like TCS case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    Good thing you mentioned MS, as MD back up known to be very hardworking
    As for the 5 muskeeters, as far I'm concerned, already switch focus to Iskandar & gang ages ago. The other problem is, if they want to resign,cannot, can happen like TCS case.
    I'm happy to hear that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dato A View Post
    HH : Dato, dont angry. U are very high standard players compared with those juniors and baskup players mah. Sure they cannot fight you.

    Dato : Correct also ah. International stage i am unbeatable except Super-Dan.

    HH : Dato very hot ah? I lagi very hot! I semi-retired. I off-peak since 2003. I non-performing but still they cannot beat me. Want to retire also cannot.
    This is very very funny nice stuff

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    speechless, an old news surface now

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    kinda rhink of it...the back up shuttlers never did crack at all o.o....but they are still good players~

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    It's a bit too harsh. Most people would laze around if there is little hope.

    Quote Originally Posted by danielwong View Post
    Tuesday December 21, 2010

    The Star
    Chong Wei: Even Lin Dan’s coach will be of no help

    By RAJES PAUL

    IPOH: World No. 1 Lee Chong Wei says that Malaysian back-up shuttlers will not go anywhere if they do not change their attitude.
    And there was sarcasm in his voice when he said that even Lin Dan’s coach, Tang Hsienhu, will not be able to make world beaters out of Malaysia’s current batch of back-up squad players.
    Chong Wei was frustrated with lack of enthusiasm showed by the squad comprising Liew Daren, Chan Kwong Beng, Chong Wei Feng, Tan Chun Seang and Mohd Arif Abdul Latif.He is getting more and more annoyed with the situation. After all, he has held the status as the country’s top shuttler for far too long. On Sunday, he stretched his invincibility on the local circuit to eight years by winning the Perak Open.
    The 28-year-old Chong Wei said that the back-up players would have to save their own skin.
    “It’s not about the coaches. Malaysia have Misbun (Sidek), Rashid (Sidek) and even Hendrawan. But they cannot help these players if they do not do their part,” he said.
    “We can even bring in Lin Dan’s coach but he too will not be able to do anything about it.”
    After sparring with them for a year, Chong Wei has noted their weaknesses.
    “I am disappointed with their attitude. Daren had no explanation when I asked him the reason for his defeat at the Hong Kong Open (recently). He said he did not know what went wrong,” said Chong Wei.
    “One should be able to analyse his game and understand why he won or lost.
    “Arif is a player from the same batch as Kenichi Tago of Japan. Tago gave me a tough fight at the All-England final this year but I did not see the same fire from Arif (in the semi-finals of the Perak Open).
    “We have a group of players who depend too much dependant on the coaches. They are neither analytical nor want to go the extra mile.
    “From my observation, they are unable to cope with the drills every day of a week. They slow down half way. This is same attitude they show on the court. They give up when the pressure gets to them.”
    Chong Wei hoped that the so called “future stars” would buck up by showing better commitment in training and competitions.
    “I have come a long way and there is no short cut. It is all about hard work,” he said.
    “I hope the back-up players will show better attitude and start making their presence felt in local and international tournaments next year to save their own badminton careers.”



    # so much highlight that I choose not to make it bold....
    anyway I trust our LCW words is more meaningful than typical supporters like us...
    what he saw is real than our coffee shop chat....

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    Right there! Are those young players naturally born lazy? No! Then what is the reason behind the change of attitude?

    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    LCW is right. That is why Malaysia is only good up to the world junior stage. After that the other top countries leave them far behind.
    Perhaps they need a fat thick cane to whack their behind every time they slip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ye333 View Post
    Right there! Are those young players naturally born lazy? No! Then what is the reason behind the change of attitude?
    or maybe they are lazy?

    success takes both talent and hardwork. talent will bring people so far and they need to patch up the rest with hardwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    or maybe they are lazy?

    success takes both talent and hardwork. talent will bring people so far and they need to patch up the rest with hardwork.
    .
    I think that LCW is complaining about Malaysian back-up players not having great fighting spirit like what we have witnessed in the players like Wong Choong Hann and Wong Mew Choo.

    Malaysian players are usually known to have laid-back attitude.

    It should be "When the going gets tough, the tough gets going". But the MAS back-up players have not been showing this type of attitude lately.
    .
    Last edited by chris-ccc; 12-21-2010 at 06:15 PM.

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