Badminton Games : PAW Season 5 (2011)

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  1. Sandy

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    PAW (PICK-A-WINNER): INTRODUCTION​




    The game was adopted from WTA forum and currently active and the most popular game in WTA & ATP forums.
    Thank's to Simon (England) as The Founder of the game.

    The rules are simple:
    Just pick the winners of any 28 Single's Main Draw matches (R-32 to Final, both MS & WS) and Double Main Draw (Quarter Final to Final for MD, WD & XD)

    You choose the matches and you pick the winners. You get more points for picking low-ranked winners than for picking high-ranked winners.


    Example

    The Fixtures and Scoring Points:

    NO.[..] MT101: [ ]Lin.Dan..... v [ ]T.Hidayat...(. 7 - 15 ) delete [ ]
    NO.[..] MT102: [ ]K.Jonassen.. v [ ]Kendrick.Lee(. 7 - 15 ) delete [ ]
    NO.[..] MT103: [ ]Peter.Gade.. v [ ]Eric.Pang...(. 7 - 14 ) delete [ ]
    NO.[..] MT104: [ ]Yu.Chen..... v [ ]D.Palyama...(. 8 - 12 ) delete [ ]
    NO.[..] MT105: [ ]Kay.Bin.Yeoh v [ ]Andrew.Smith( 11 - 9 .) delete [ ]


    The numbers after the fixtures are the Scoring Points. These are the respective points you score for picking each player. So if you pick LIN to beat HIDAYAT and LIN wins then you score 7 points.
    But if you pick HIDAYAT to win and HE wins then you score 15 points. Of course, if you pick HIDAYAT and he loses you score nothing at all.


    Your Picks:
    NO.[01] MT101: [ ]Lin.Dan..... v [X]T.Hidayat...(. 7 - 15 ) delete [ ]
    NO.[02] MT103: [X]Peter.Gade.. v [ ]Eric.Pang...(. 7 - 14 ) delete [ ]
    NO.[03] MT105: [X]Kay.Bin.Yeoh v [ ]Andrew.Smith( 11 - 9 .) delete [ ]
    NO.[04] MT104: [X]Yu.Chen..... v [ ]D.Palyama...(. 8 - 12 ) delete [ ]


    (Since you are limited to 28 matches in the tournament, in an actual game you may choose to 'pass' on some of these matches.)


    The Results:

    (Results from Malaysia Open 2007)

    LIN, Dan.(1)....... bt HIDAYAT, Taufik.... 21-19, 23-21
    You picked HIDAYAT so you score nothing.

    GADE, Peter.(3).... bt PANG, Eric.......... 22-20, 21-11
    You picked GADE so you score 7.

    YEOH, Kay Bin...... bt SMITH, Andrew...... 21-16, 12-21, 21-17
    You picked YEOH so you score 11.

    CHEN, Yu.(8)....... bt PALYAMA, Dicky..... 20-24, 21-14, 22-20
    You picked CHEN YU so you score 8.

    So from those four matches you would have scored a total of 7 +11 + 8 = 26points.

    The player with the most points at the end of the tournament is the winner.
    A 'league table' is maintained in the PAW thread throughout.


    How to Play

    Just go to the PAW thread in the tournament forum, study the Fixtures and Scoring Points and name your picks. The Fixtures and Scoring Points will appear when the First Round draw is made.


    Rules

    1. The 28 matches you choose can be from ANY rounds in the main draw. I just need to receive your picks before the matches begin. (For instance, you might choose 10 First Round Matches, 6 Second Round matches, 2 Quarter Finals, both Semis and the Final. Or you could choose 12 First Round matches and the Final.)

    The only stipulation is that you may not make all of your picks in the same round.

    EXCEPTIONS: For both 64-draw tournaments for Men's Single's Women's Single's you are allowed 33 picks, for one 64-draw one 32-draw tournaments you are allowed 30 picks and for 16-draw tournaments on both category you are allowed only 20 picks.

    2. You get more points for picking low-ranked players than for picking high-ranked players. So for each of your selected matches you can choose to go for a longshot or to play it safe.

    3. The Scoring Points for each Fixture will be posted at the top of the PAW thread when the fixtures are known.

    4. To play you just need to specify 28 winners over the course of the event. There are no 'Commitments' - anyone can play. Just post, PM or email your picks at your convenience.

    5. To minimize manual jobs in Pick's calculation, we need new format of picking.
    You just copied the scoring points of the matches which you want to be picked, fill PAW No. in the [ ] right side of 'NO.'.
    Choose the player who thought will win by put the X sign in [ ] left side of player's name.
    If you want to cancel/delete your old pick, just give X sign in [ ] right of "delete" word.

    Note : please copy a row completely and set insert "off" in your keyboard when you write your picks.

    Example :

    In Hongkong Open 2007,
    I will choose Xie X.F., Yip P.Y & T.Hidayat for my PAWs, so I write

    NO.[01] MT101: [X]Xingfang.Xie v [ ]C.Reid......(. 5 - 22 ) delete [ ]
    NO.[02] MT102: [ ]Min.Jie.Pai. v [X]Pui.Yin.Yip.( 15 - 7 .) delete [ ]
    NO.[03] MT119: [X]T.Hidayat... v [ ]Hong.Chen...(. 9 - 11 ) delete [ ]

    then I want to delete my PAW01, I just write

    NO.[01] MT101: [X]Xingfang.Xie v [ ]C.Reid......(. 5 - 22 ) delete [X]

    I want replace it with Lu Lan as my PAW01, so I write

    NO.[01] MT105: [X]Lan.Lu...... v [ ]S.C.Cheng...(. 7 - 14 ) delete [ ]



    should indicate which of your 28 chosen fixtures it is. (So your last chosen fixture should be labelled PAW NO.[28])

    This is to help me keep track of all your Picks; to help you keep track of each other's Picks; and to help you to keep track of your own Picks!

    6. Please don't edit the surname of the players also don't edit the match (MT) number.

    7. You should make your picks in the PAW thread, or send them to me by PM or email. If you email, do remember to include your badmintoncentral.com Forum handle.

    8. You just need to send me your 28 picks over the course of the tournament.

    9. The Scoring Points are derived using the BWF World Ranking System.
    (addition : Ranking points of new pair in double will follow notional rank of BWF)

    10. Of course, Picks must be made before the match begins. If there is a chance the match had started when the Pick was posted then that Pick cannot be accepted. This rule is applied very strictly.

    Post Email your picks before the session of play begins to ensure your picks are accepted.

    This is so everyone knows your pick was made before the match started. (Match start times are not recorded, so picks made five minutes before a match starts cannot normally be accepted.)

    NOTE: There is a Closing Time for each match. The Closing Time is the time after which Picks will be deemed invalid.

    12. Once a Pick is posted in the PAW thread, it may not be changed or deleted.

    I frequently take copies of the thread text at regular intervals and the Picks are entered into a database.

    NOTE: Invalid Picks (e.g. duplicates) may be re-entered. Please put them in a new post rather than editing the original one.

    13. If a player withdraws before a match begins then all Picks for that match become invalid.

    Replacement Picks may be made. If it is impossible to make a replacement Pick (for instance, if the match involved is the tournament final) it is unfortunate and no Scoring Points are awarded.

    This rule applies to all matches not played. When a player retired during match, Scoring Points are awarded who picked the winner although the score just
    1-0 retired
    or deficit score, example : 18-21 5-5 retired.

    14. Each player's points are tallied and the player with the most points at the end of the tournament is declared the winner. In the event of a tie there is no 'tiebreaker'.

    15. The 'League Table' is maintained daily throughout the tournament. Here's an example the end of the tournament:

    --------Player---------- .P .*W .*L .*Pts
    *1. badMania............ .21 .18 ..3 .179
    *2. madbad.............. .20 .17 ..3 .169
    *3. ctjcad.............. .21 .16 ..5 .161
    *4. Loh................. .21 .15 ..6 .150
    *5. ants................ .21 .14 ..7 .139
    *.. nugroho............. .21 .13 ..8 .139
    *7. yannie.............. .21 .13 ..8 .138
    *8. Sandy............... .21 .12 ..9 .132
    ...
    ...
    29. XXXX................ ..5 ..4 ..1 ..27
    30. YYYY................ ..1 ..0 ..1 ...0




    16. The PAW Ranking System closely mirrors the BWF Ranking System. Ranking Points are awarded

    according to positions in the Final League Table of each tournament.
    Code:
    [font="Courier New"][color="DarkGreen"]
    1st --- 9200 ...... 9th ---- 4370 ...... 17th --- 2920 ...... 25th --- 1800
    2nd --- 7800 ...... 10th --- 4160 ...... 18th --- 2750 ...... 26th --- 1680
    3rd --- 6800 ...... 11th --- 3960 ...... 19th --- 2600 ...... 27th --- 1560
    4th --- 6000 ...... 12th --- 3770 ...... 20th --- 2460 ...... 28th --- 1440
    5th --- 5500 ...... 13th --- 3580 ...... 21st --- 2320 ...... 29th --- 1320
    6th --- 5150 ...... 14th --- 3400 ...... 22nd --- 2180 ...... 30th --- 1210
    7th --- 4850 ...... 15th --- 3230 ...... 23rd --- 2050 ...... 31st --- 1100
    8th --- 4600 ...... 16th --- 3070 ...... 24th --- 1920 ...... 32nd --- 1000[/color][/font]

    badMania got 9200 pts as 1st winner
    madbad got 7800 pts as 2nd winner, etc
    ants & nugroho tied in 5th placed, got average ranking points from 5th & 6th, (5500+5150)/2
    = 5325


    17. The decisions of the Organizer (that's me!) are final.

    For illustration,
    here is link of PAW Hongkong Open 2007

    http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50101


    Please feel free to post, PM or email me with any questions.



    Cheers and Good Luck,

    Sandy
     
  2. Sandy

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    Make this thread sticky, please...
     
  4. george@chongwei

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    yes, so the 2011 tournaments paw is up!:)
     
  5. PoLLuX

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    Waiting for KD drawing :D
     
  6. robin7

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    Time flies as we are already heading into the 5th season.

    Sandy, please voice up if you really need help in running the game.

    I suggest that we should form a PAW organizing committee which consists of the Chairman (which is Sandy) and a rep from each PAW team.

    Let's get the ball rolling
    PAW organizing committee
    Chairman: Sandy
    Vice Chairman: Optional
    Rep from each PAW team:
    1. BZL - robin7
    2. CHN - ??
    3. DRM - ??
    4. CWC - ??
    5.
    6.
    7.
    etc

    Team captains, please assign at least one rep from your team.
     
  7. wilcan

    wilcan Regular Member

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    so,
    if want to join this game, we should have a team??
    how to join a team?? i need a team now haha
     
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    rosid Regular Member

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    Not really.
    For playing in Knock Down (KD) we just need to be top 56, CMIIW.
     
  9. chris-ccc

    chris-ccc Regular Member

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    Let's wait for Sandy to explain officially

    .
    We need to qualify to participate in our Knock Down (KD) PAW Games.

    Let's wait for Sandy to explain officially. :):):)
    .
     
  10. Jimmy_Goh

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    PAW Organizing Committee

    Time flies as we are already heading into the 5th season.

    Sandy, please voice up if you really need help in running the game.

    I suggest that we should form a PAW organizing committee which consists of the Chairman (which is Sandy) and a rep from each PAW team.

    Let's get the ball rolling
    PAW organizing committee
    Chairman: Sandy
    Vice Chairman: Optional
    Rep from each PAW team:
    1. BZL - robin7 / Jimmy Goh (I can help sometimes:))
    2. CHN - ??
    3. DRM - ??
    4. CWC - ??
    5.
    6.
    7.
    etc

    Team captains, please assign at least one rep from your team.
     
  11. robin7

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    No responses from other teams?

    Come on guys! Are you guys just willing to play only?
     
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    organizing committee ??? what is for?? i mean its job description :D
     
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    ...
    it's more complicated than i think
    what is KD Paw Games??
     
  14. Jimmy_Goh

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    I believe the Job Description will be 'similar' to Sandy's job of running the PAW game . . . . .keeping updated tabs on picks, searching and putting up badm 'pitting' players win-win pts ON Time, maintaining the PAW league table, etc:D:D hard consistent work all done excellently alone by Sandy the past 4 seasons.::cool:
     
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    KD PAW Games = Knock Down PAW Games

    .
    It is organised like a SS tournament;

    * PAWers need to have enough PAW points to qualify to play
    * Sandy organises a draw for our PAWers
    * A round is played when a SS tournament is held
    * 2 PAWers face each other in a round. The loser will be eliminated.
    * At the last SS tournament of the year, all PAWers would have been eliminated except one; the WINNER.
    .
     
  16. LD rules!

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    Good to see PAW 2011 thread is up.:) looking forward to the new season.:) I am happy to help if required, drop me a PM if you need it :) Cheers.
     
  17. Sandy

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    Code:
    [SIZE="4"][B][U]PAW Ranking as of January 10, 2011[/U][/B][/SIZE]
    [SIZE="3"][B](After SS Final 2010)[/B][/SIZE]
    
    [FONT="Courier New"][B]----------------------------------Tittle-----------P-O-I-N-T-S-------------Next----
    ----#--Pre#--PLAYER-----------CLB-Ttl-52W---Best10---Added---10th---11th---Off--TRN[/B][/FONT]
    [FONT="Courier New"]
    [b]001.(001).suetyan.............CHN __5 __4..._64855.. _3420. _3700. _3700. _3960 .32
    002.(002).Dede_Pran...........BDF __4 __3..._62300.. _4600. _4850. _4600. __705 .33
    003.(003).Chrisbad............BDF __4 __3..._60885.. _2743. _3960. _3905. _1265 .18
    004.(007).PoLLuX..............CHN __5 __4..._59875.. _8975. _3500. _3490. _9200 .32
    005.(004).aZn_Popcorn............ __6 __2..._57875.. _2370. _4250. _4160. _2250 .32
    006.(013).CLELY...............CHN __4 __3..._56465.. _8975. _4160. _3960. _2050 .33
    007.(005).Sandy...............MAD _13 __3..._56350.. _1230. _3700. _3580. _3070 .33
    008.(009).robin7..............BZL __6 __1..._56145.. _7200. _4370. _4250. _4600 .31
    009.(006).Ajaib...............CHN __1 __1..._55210.. _3790. _3865. _3790. _1000 .30
    010.(008).cooler................. __1 __0..._53827.. _____. _3180. _3160. _1500 .22[/b]
    011.(010).tommy_bun...........CHN __1 __1..._53490.. _4080. _3410. _3150. _1265 .28
    012.(011).madbad................. __7 __2..._51840.. _____. _2050. _1805. _2460 .18
    013.(012).aresya..............BDF __1 __1..._51600.. _3155. _3770. _3500. _6000 .28
    014.(016).markchan............BZL __1 __0..._45765.. _4390. _2180. _1368. _6800 .17
    015.(014).press100............MAD __1 __1..._45053.. _4080. _2603. _2530. __735 .29
    016.(015).huangkwokhau........DRM __3 __1..._42965.. _____. _2800. _2730. __612 .30
    017.(020).Jimmy_Goh...........BZL __0 __0..._42233.. _5133. _2960. _2600. _____ .32
    018.(017).arowana.............DRM __1 __1..._41953.. _____. _1680. _1320. _1680 .18
    019.(018).Dmitry..............DRM __5 __0..._41022.. _2160. _2585. _2460. _2250 .26
    020.(019).ycchen..............SCG __5 __0..._40350.. _____. _2600. _2320. _4160 .16
    021.(021).etudiant............DRM __1 __0..._38405.. _1900. _2660. _2600. __758 .33
    022.(022).simonlovers.........CWC __2 __1..._37745.. _____. _2180. _2000. __860 .31
    023.(027).rizayosia...........ROF __0 __0..._37633.. _5133. _1860. _1720. _____ .24
    024.(023).hcyong..............MAD __2 __0..._36848.. _1590. _2575. _2390. _3230 .31
    025.(024).kevinboy............ROF __3 __1..._36259.. _____. __915. __895. __780 .21
    026.(025).davienosky..........CWC __0 __0..._35925.. __930. _2035. _1580. _____ .26
    027.(033).george@chongwei.....CWC __2 __0..._34878.. _5800. _2050. _1800. _3580 .27
    028.(026).LD rules!...........CWC __0 __0..._34528.. _1590. _2100. _2050. _____ .21
    029.(031).samuel882...........ROF __2 __0..._34516.. _5133. _1870. _1680. __800 .23
    030.(028).spchu...............JMJ __1 __1..._34048.. __960. _1765. _1210. _1920 .21
    031.(029).lindaweni...........BDF __1 __1..._34010.. _____. _2260. _2050. _2675 .27
    032.(030).koje89..............CWC __0 __0..._32265.. _1770. _1900. _1770. _____ .18
    033.(036).Ryan214.............BOY __1 __0..._31053.. _3600. _2180. _2050. _2675 .21
    034.(032).demolidor...........BZL __6 __1..._31038.. _____. _1980. _1655. _____ .15
    035.(034).leonardklh............. __1 __0..._30450.. __905. _1320. _1235. _5000 .17
    036.(035).XiaoQi..............BOY __4 __0..._30318.. _____. __925. __910. __830 .14
    037.(037).tehsham.............ROF __1 __0..._29390.. _1230. _1665. _1660. __885 .33
    038.(038).kschong................ __0 __0..._28936.. _____. _____. _____. _5500 ..6
    039.(043).rosid...............MAD __0 __0..._28276.. _6350. __690. _____. _____ .10
    040.(039).Barbie_Van..........MAD __0 __0..._27543.. _1050. _1185. _1115. _____ .20
    041.(040).andalusia...........BOY __1 __0..._25010.. _____. _1050. __840. _5000 .17
    042.(041).limsy...............ROF __1 __0..._24780.. _1410. _1410. _1335. __670 .27
    043.(042).badders7............BZL __8 __0..._23990.. _____. __710. _____. _2920 .10
    044.(044).iamverycheap........... __0 __0..._21547.. _____. _1580. _1380. _3400 .27
    045.(045).chris-ccc.............. __0 __0..._20928.. __990. _1196. _1068. _4370 .27
    046.(046).luyi80..............WOW __3 __0..._19570.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..4
    047.(047).kar_mun.............LOS __1 __0..._19420.. _____. __680. _____. _1100 .10
    048.(048).erik_choo...........BDF __0 __0..._19268.. _____. _1280. _1155. _____ .21
    049.(049).AlanY.................. __0 __0..._19024.. _____. __622. _____. _7800 .10
    050.(052).miksss................. __0 __0..._16505.. _2030. __820. __670. _____ .11
    051.(050).CESC THE GREAT......... __0 __0..._15485.. _____. __710. __600. __910 .12
    052.(053).nonie.................. __0 __0..._15301.. _2743. __825. __820. __705 .26
    053.(051).lovebaddy.............. __0 __0..._15206.. _____. _____. _____. _3770 ..9
    054.(054).jljy91..............LOS __1 __0..._12942.. _____. __765. __758. __758 .18
    055.(057).MelvIndonesia.......... __0 __0..._12327.. _2370. __840. __800. _____ .18
    056.(055).fd16n...............SCG __0 __0..._11299.. _____. __715. __710. __630 .22
    057.(056).abedeng.............LOS __0 __0..._10894.. _____. _____. _____. __616 ..7
    058.(058).apontoh................ __2 __0...__9889.. _____. _____. _____. _1800 ..6
    059.(059).aulia...............BOY __0 __0...__9735.. _____. _____. _____. __940 ..6
    060.(060).vching..............SCG __1 __0...__8900.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..1
    061.(061).Dreamzz.............DRM __1 __0...__8704.. _____. _____. _____. __970 ..6
    062.(062).bradja23............... __0 __0...__7840.. _____. _____. _____. __830 ..4
    063.(063).arianlupuz............. __0 __0...__7510.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..8
    064.(064).netHa...............GRD __0 __0...__7361.. _____. _____. _____. __680 ..7
    065.(065).Jessica.............WOW __0 __0...__7074.. _____. _____. _____. __660 ..6
    066.(068).phil-mm................ __0 __0...__6989.. _1020. _____. _____. _____ ..6
    067.(066).eaglehelang............ __0 __0...__6230.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..5
    068.(067).fathonezic..........BOY __0 __0...__6082.. _____. _____. _____. _1500 ..7
    069.(076).mr.bulutangkis......... __0 __0...__5908.. _2743. _____. _____. _____ ..3
    070.(069).chuibie................ __3 __0...__5492.. _____. _____. _____. __620 ..4
    071.(070).kish-mah-ash........... __0 __0...__5162.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..7
    072.(071).Takamsda............... __0 __0...__4581.. _____. _____. _____. __609 ..4
    073.(072).chemile.............GRD __0 __0...__4533.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..6
    074.(089).litobear............JMJ __0 __0...__4416.. _3155. _____. _____. __652 ..3
    075.(073).Loopy...............WOW __0 __0...__4400.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..3
    076.(074).anfan2000.............. __0 __0...__3687.. _____. _____. _____. __636 ..6
    077.(075).kklk1708............... __0 __0...__3635.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..4
    078.(077).Freaklin............... __0 __0...__3015.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..3
    079.(078).maspur................. __0 __0...__2924.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..3
    080.(079).nwy5633.............VOA __0 __0...__2915.. _____. _____. _____. __690 ..4
    081.(080).Angelineayht........... __0 __0...__2890.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..3
    082.(081).tjl_vanguard........... __0 __0...__2395.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..4
    083.(082).Cannot_smash........SCG __1 __0...__2363.. _____. _____. _____. _____ ..3
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  18. Sandy

    Sandy Regular Member

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    Glad to see many people want to help me for running the PAW Game.
    This game consist of main PAW (League Table, Pick Summary, Scoring Points, etc) and Side Results like Team PAW, KD PAW and still in consideration, PAW League.
    Actually it's not easy running the main PAW manually, so I don't brave enough to give the job to otherv person. The excepton is this person is ready with some "tools" to run it.

    The possible job to take over are the side reults PAW Games like PAW Team Race, PAW League which counted after the tournament finished. Also KD PAW, I'm happy is anyone help me to run it.
     
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  19. rosid

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    what kind of tools do you use to run PAW, sandy?do you create it yourself?
     
  20. Sandy

    Sandy Regular Member

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    I created the little program to manage the PAW.
     

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