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    Great thread. ONLY NUSA MAHSURI appreciate what Datuk Misbun contributes to the development of Malaysia Badminton since from the past, present and future and if you go to KLRC Badminton Hall and ask any youngster who join NUSA MAHSURI coaching session there why they en-role with them, among the answers will be because NUSA has Datuk Misbun. This shows how influences Datuk Misbun as a motivational and inspiration to any young player who wants to play badminton and even children appreciate that.

    Regardless whatever outcome that will come out from the triparties meeting, Datuk Misbun will not be the one who is at the loosing end since Nusa can take him back and he still able to contribute with similar impact in the development of Malaysia Badminton or even better as he's working with people that loves and appreciate him more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pBmMalaysia View Post
    so otb, in another words somebody is going to swallow the big pill

    during the coming 3 parties talk.

    definitely not misbun because he quits

    definitely not malaysia government,

    they were hoping players to turn pro, less money involved

    so that leaves behind bam

    very interesting to follow up in the coming news

    is it going to be in several episodes?
    Who bow first, I dunno. Staying with BAM as WR1, LCW gets like RM15K per month right? Playing in CBL, LCW makes more than that playing ways less games and still gets to keep his SS winnings, endorsements and bonus $$$ winning majors like RM1M for OLY gold. I have a conspiracy theory for LCW to turn pro and maximize his earnings before he packs it in and improve his skills with better training partners in CHN to better his OLY12 chance. So MS suddenly 'quits' as LCW turns pro and after LCW retires, no one can blame MS for MAS players going downhill. MAS govt saves money and not having to deal with these clowns at BAM and under achieving players that go nowhere fast. Win-win for both.
    As for BAM, there are so screwed witha bunch of players that cannot even make it out of QR or 1st round, and the next best player is HH yo-yoing at #2...hahaha!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    OTB has always been posting that "Money Talks" (from our BC memory bank).

    Soon we shall find out if Misbun can find enough sponsors to support his mission to improve Malaysian Badminton outside BAM.
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    After that Pakistan Kampung champion called you Sir, we will call you SIR Chris No money, no talk lah...these are pro players and coaches, gone are the days of playing baddy for fun, pride, nation and all those BS. It is money, money and still money talk. Can't blame players for this is their livelihood and the successful ones win and done well...it is the less successful players (and there are plenty of them in the MAS and everywhere else) that when they retire after they overstay their welcome, they find themselves in big time trouble. Pro baddy is risky business so hit the kettle while it is still hot.
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    BAM cant just relying on LCW and MIsbun all the time.......they have to start to produce another batch of talents........

    Its a good thing for both Misbun/LCW and BAM and for MAS badminton also.........if they split.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmarc View Post
    BAM cant just relying on LCW and MIsbun all the time.......they have to start to produce another batch of talents........

    Its a good thing for both Misbun/LCW and BAM and for MAS badminton also.........if they split.
    BAM needs LCW and Misbun to satisfy the ever-hungry NSC, BAM officials at the top and also many BCers, otherwise the whole MAS world of badminton turn upside down... because MAS supporters hate to see someone who can win but still lose like KKK/TBH... but LCW does his job!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneToughBirdie View Post
    Pro baddy is risky business so hit the kettle while it is still hot.
    true, very true

    few words only can actually makes a lot of difference if one really looks into it

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    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    BAM needs LCW and Misbun to satisfy the ever-hungry NSC, BAM officials at the top and also many BCers, otherwise the whole MAS world of badminton turn upside down... because MAS supporters hate to see someone who can win but still lose like KKK/TBH... but LCW does his job!
    Yes, without BAM, LCW and Misbun still can survive as a independent player to compete for MAS under BAM flag and still representing MAS in all tournaments.

    Without LCW/Misbun, BAM can use the fund to grow more new talents as they dont have LCW to rely on any more as BAM player.

    Its good for MAS badminton developement.........

    But if kkk/tbh wanted to leave BAM, I think they will never make it to the top again because they dont have the strong displine to organize their own training........they will go clubbing more than training......lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonmarc View Post
    Yes, without BAM, LCW and Misbun still can survive as a independent player to compete for MAS under BAM flag and still representing MAS in all tournaments.

    Without LCW/Misbun, BAM can use the fund to grow more new talents as they dont have LCW to rely on any more as BAM player.

    Its good for MAS badminton developement.........

    But if kkk/tbh wanted to leave BAM, I think they will never make it to the top again because they dont have the strong displine to organize their own training........they will go clubbing more than training......lol
    I think KKK/TBH knows this also... lol thats why they never try to leave BAM... because I think they also should be not happy with top

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    Arrow ...because I think they also should be not happy with top...

    Quote Originally Posted by undeadshot View Post
    I think KKK/TBH knows this also... lol thats why they never try to leave BAM... because I think they also should be not happy with top
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    Not happy with top......?

    Your sentence stopped suddenly.
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    Top means the big shot in Bam

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    Arrow Top = Boss

    Quote Originally Posted by george@chongwei View Post
    Top means the big shot in Bam
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    Oh I see; Top = Boss.
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    What they can do is to perhaps start a Professional Badminton Association? Misbun is one of the very first to go pro anyway.

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    Thumbs up Professional Badminton Associations/Clubs in Malaysia

    Quote Originally Posted by extremenanopowe View Post
    What they can do is to perhaps start a Professional Badminton Association? Misbun is one of the very first to go pro anyway.
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    I believe you are talking about Professional Badminton Associations/Clubs in Malaysia.

    But there are already some Professional Badminton Associations/Clubs set up in Malaysia; for example, the KLRC, the Nusa Mahsuri, etc, etc, ......
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    Thumbs up I supported Misbun because he has worked hard for Malaysian Badminton

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    I have received some messages stating that they (some BCers) are happy that I have supported Misbun. I supported Misbun because he has worked hard for Malaysian Badminton.

    BAM has too much politics to deal with; I find that our sport (Badminton) is not BAM's first/main priority.
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    It is not that BAM has politics, its more like BAM is subject to interference from politicians for decades.

    Read Rajes Paul's open commentary in Star today which someone will post sooner or later and you will get the picture.

    It is true to say Misbun has done a lot but he is not necessarily bigger than the BAM as stipulated by some and hoped for by many.

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    Courtesy of The Star.

    Maybe now the picture is clearer. With contributions from Bcers?

    Sunday January 9, 2011 Misbun either an opportunist or victim of BAM’s strait-jacket system

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    WAS money the reason behind the recent resignation of national badminton coach Misbun Sidek?
    Was it because of his “ambitious and audacious” plan to build an empire outside of the clasp of the Badminton Association of Malaysia (BAM) as an independent entity?
    Or was it simply because an emotional and sensitive Misbun could not handle criticism?
    After all, the man, who is so passionate about the game, may feel that he had delivered the goods – being the guiding force behind the success of world No. 1 Lee Chong Wei and several others since joining the BAM’s stable of coaches in 2003.
    Yes, he did make some demands, which he felt were justified, and was disappointed when they were shot down. Thus, leading to his eventual resignation on Dec 31 via e-mail.
    But then again, it could well be because of the weak system in the BAM itself.
    Is Misbun selfish or selfless? Is he an opportunist or a victim of BAM’s fragile system?
    Except for the controversial Misbun, everyone else seems to have his or her own version of the coach’s dramatic exit.
    Some had even passed judgement, saying: “Let the trouble maker go!”
    But he may still stay on.
    It all depends on the maverick coach’s meeting with Youth and Sports Minister Datuk Seri Ahmad Shabery Cheek and BAM president Datuk Seri Nadzmi Mohd Salleh today.
    Whether he stays or not, there are “perks” for Misbun.
    He draws more than RM20,000 a month and also endorses some products together with his blue-eyed boy Chong Wei.
    He may not earn as much when he rejoins Nusa Mahsuri and continue doing what he likes most – training youngsters.
    But hang on, there is an even bigger “perk” in store for him – he will be joined by Chong Wei.
    Chong Wei is ready to follow his coach out the exit door and pursue his career with his coach by his side – at least until the 2012 London Olympic Games.
    It is learnt that several sponsors, including Li Ning, are queuing up to offer millions of ringgit to Chong Wei and his coach Misbun if they choose to be professionals.
    With the Datuk Lee Chong Wei Hall set to be ready in March, the shuttler is ready to go pro – with the blessings of the Youth and Sports Ministry and National Sports Council (NSC).
    The Ministry and the NSC are not concerned with whom Chong Wei is affiliated to. They will be happy if he can play in the major events like the Olympic Games.
    True, the issue of allowing shuttlers to turn professional could have been sorted out earlier if the BAM had had a more structured guideline.
    But it is still better to be late than never.
    After all, the window of opportunity for a player is short. So, why not maximize it by playing as many tournaments as possible – and raking in the big bucks at the same time?
    There is one catch, though.
    Will Chong Wei get the blessings from BAM if he decides to leave as well?
    It is the association who endorse the participation of all players in international tournaments.
    By accepting Misbun’s resignation and allowing Chong Wei to walk out, the BAM may find themselves beset with various problems.
    They will no longer have control of Chong Wei. They will not be able to use Chong Wei as sparring partner for their budding players.
    And, the most important part of all, they will not have as many as sponsors trying to hitch a ride on their bandwagon any more.
    BAM have invested a lot of money on Chong Wei and it is only natural that they would want to ride on his success for as long as they can.
    BAM’s other option is to say goodbye to Misbun but not to Chong Wei.
    But they are sure to come under fire for doing this – especially from the powers that be.
    This leaves BAM with one last option – make peace with Misbun, give in to his demands or strike a compromise.
    Whatever they opt to do, the BAM will find themselves in a fix. But this is one problem created by them.
    And they are paying the price for neglecting their development programme.
    If only they had more than one Chong Wei in their pool, they could have accepted Misbun’s resignation without much hue and cry, wish Chong Wei all the best (if he follows suit) and get back to business – working on others ready to bring glory and honour to the country.
    But that is one luxury they do not have.
    And it looks like Misbun will get his way after all.

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    if i may say so, rajes paul comment has pointed to us to see bam will be the eventual party to swallow the pill

    but then its not neccessary for the whole bam to be at fault totally.

    unless we hear from the next crucial meeting what actually happened inside the association we can't be sure.

    i think most probably president n will call for a post mortem on the matter concerned.

    lastly and coincidentally, most of the options by rajes have been brought up by bc members in the several threads created

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