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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    That's correct. Quarter-Final = Last Eight.

    Other than LCW and KKK/TBH, no other MAS players are often reaching the Quarter-Finals.
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    Maybe this requirement will make hitherto uncommitted players to soul-search and ask themselves whether they are really interested in making a mark for themselves. If so, then they have to buck-up and train harder and smarter to reach or surpass those targets!

    LCW must have been such a situation before but he must have made a personal resolution to be a successful professional player and work hard at it. And he has been richly rewarded for his commitment.

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    Arrow BAM is too tough; Not encouraging players who are trying hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    Maybe this requirement will make hitherto uncommitted players to soul-search and ask themselves whether they are really interested in making a mark for themselves. If so, then they have to buck-up and train harder and smarter to reach or surpass those targets!

    LCW must have been such a situation before but he must have made a personal resolution to be a successful professional player and work hard at it. And he has been richly rewarded for his commitment.
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    Many BCers could have read between the lines in my posts.

    What I have been saying is: BAM is not paying attention to other National Associations (who have similar goals/objectives) to raise their standards.

    Most National Associations are not thinking of punishing their players for not performing well, as it could end up discouraging players trying their best to be better players.

    So, why is BAM saying: Players can be stopped from going to tournaments if they suffered a drop in form?

    This is why I mentioned; I guess many MAS players would be left out from many tournaments in the near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Many BCers could have read between the lines in my posts.

    What I have been saying is: BAM is not paying attention to other National Associations (who have similar goals/objectives) to raise their standards.

    Most National Associations are not thinking of punishing their players for not performing well, as it could end up discouraging players trying their best to be better players.

    So, why is BAM saying: Players can be stopped from going to tournaments if they suffered a drop in form?

    This is why I mentioned; I guess many MAS players would be left out from many tournaments in the near future.
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    I can understand your concern that the administration may be unrealistic and punitive.

    But if the performance of MAS backup players especially is anything to go by, they have not made any notable impact on the international scene after a relatively long time. While young players from other countries are surging ahead, MAS players seem to remain stagnant.

    One can lament over the inadequacies of the administration and the coaching setup, etc, but in the end it is the players who have to answer for themselves. Surely we have heard stories of how great players have emerged from their unimaginable poor conditions to be what they are. NTM is one recent example.

    A player with passion and commitment should take it as a personal challenge.

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    Thumbs up A player with passion and commitment should take it as a personal challenge

    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    I can understand your concern that the administration may be unrealistic and punitive.

    But if the performance of MAS backup players especially is anything to go by, they have not made any notable impact on the international scene after a relatively long time. While young players from other countries are surging ahead, MAS players seem to remain stagnant.

    One can lament over the inadequacies of the administration and the coaching setup, etc, but in the end it is the players who have to answer for themselves. Surely we have heard stories of how great players have emerged from their unimaginable poor conditions to be what they are. NTM is one recent example.

    A player with passion and commitment should take it as a personal challenge.
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    Yes, I agree; that a player with passion and commitment should take it as a personal challenge.

    What I am saying is; I guess that many MAS players would be left out from many tournaments in the near future (just because they cannot make it into the last 8, in their tournaments).

    Just imagine that Singapore is to tell their players this; If you cannot get to be in the last 8 (Quarter-Finals), you won't be involved in further tournaments.
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    My guess is some may have been over trained causing these injury. Perhaps, they should make some changes to the training method.

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    Arrow 2011 German Open GPG: Day 1 Tue 01-Mar (Qualification Round)

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    Chan Kwong Beng will be at the 2011 German Open GPG tomorrow (Day 1 Tue 01-Mar) in the Qualification Rounds.

    Let us wait for good news; and see if CKB can make it all the way into the Quarter-Finals in this tournament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by extremenanopowe View Post
    My guess is some may have been over trained causing these injury. Perhaps, they should make some changes to the training method.
    That's more reason why BAM and its panel of coaches should employ the expertise of the sports scientists to assist them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loh View Post
    That's more reason why BAM and its panel of coaches should employ the expertise of the sports scientists to assist them.
    The coaches already made the requests, seems most of focus is on elit players, te back up get less

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Chan Kwong Beng will be at the 2011 German Open GPG tomorrow (Day 1 Tue 01-Mar) in the Qualification Rounds.

    Let us wait for good news; and see if CKB can make it all the way into the Quarter-Finals in this tournament.
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    The good news is: Chan Kwong Beng is now promoted to the Main Draw.

    He should have no problem to progress to R32, but Wei Nan will probably be his opponent for a place in R16. Then, in order to progress to QF, he has to beat either Hsu Jen Hao (who just won an IC tourney last week) or Marc Zwiebler.

    Meanwhile, Daren Liew will face Ajay Jayaram, followed by possibly Carl Baxter and then Hu Yun for a place in the QF.

    It will be quite an achievement if both can reach the last 8.

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    Thumbs up Chan Kwong Beng & Daren Liew

    Quote Originally Posted by badMania View Post
    The good news is: Chan Kwong Beng is now promoted to the Main Draw.

    He should have no problem to progress to R32, but Wei Nan will probably be his opponent for a place in R16. Then, in order to progress to QF, he has to beat either Hsu Jen Hao (who just won an IC tourney last week) or Marc Zwiebler.

    Meanwhile, Daren Liew will face Ajay Jayaram, followed by possibly Carl Baxter and then Hu Yun for a place in the QF.

    It will be quite an achievement if both can reach the last 8.
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    I sincerely hope that Chan Kwong Beng and Daren Liew can reach the last 8. They are amongst the most promising MS hopes that MAS has at this moment (after LCW).
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Just imagine that Singapore is to tell their players this; If you cannot get to be in the last 8 (Quarter-Finals), you won't be involved in further tournaments.
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    Actually the SBA has been quite strict.

    As you must have read, recently the SBA literary "sack" a number of young national squad trainees whom they thought could not make the mark, instead of wasting their time and SBA's resources any further.

    And our "irresponsible" prodigal child Zhang has been banned from training and participating in tournaments not only recently but also before this.

    I think BAM must have considered the elite players' performance carefully before shaking them up with the recent requirements. They will not send players who are not ready, but once they do so they expect such selected players to be able to perform to expectation.

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    It is now the month of March. No news from Misbun. He has kept a low profile; and more revealingly, BAM has not made any waves about him, and have gone about their other CTC and KPI announcements like nothing ever happened. Curious. Even the media appear to have lost interest.

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    According to a local newspaper, Misbun will NOT be LCW's coach in All England... so it seems like the saga has not settled down yet

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    Perhaps a Tunship title will bring him back?

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    Arrow I believed that Misbun Sidek has already made up his mind to leave BAM

    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    It is now the month of March. No news from Misbun. He has kept a low profile; and more revealingly, BAM has not made any waves about him, and have gone about their other CTC and KPI announcements like nothing ever happened. Curious. Even the media appear to have lost interest.
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    Going back to Page 1 of this thread; I have said that I believed that Misbun Sidek has already made up his mind to leave BAM; It's just that BAM kept asking him to come back (mentioning 'it's for the sake of National Interest').

    It looks like Misbun is still struggling to decide. If I were Misbun, I would have said 'No, but thanks; since all my past efforts have not been appreciated'.
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    But there is no indication of his working for MAS badminton outside of BAM either, so far. What is holdig him back from allowing his mind to be known?

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    Arrow Misbun needs time for his family as well

    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    But there is no indication of his working for MAS badminton outside of BAM either, so far. What is holdig him back from allowing his mind to be known?
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    It's not only that this BAM's request that Misbun has to consider. Misbun's wife is quite ill; and Misbun needs time for his family as well.

    Let's not rush Misbun too much.

    Not many BCers and BAM members understand how tough Misbun is going through in his patch of difficulties currently.

    If I were Misbun, I would take my time to decide. BAM and the rest of the world can wait.
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