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12-31-2011, 04:50 AM #953
'Centralised training' cannot be said to be the only best type of training
IMHO, BAM people are thinking of 'centralised training' because they see China doing so well with this method. Singapore and many other countries are also doing this type of training, thinking that it is the best way to set-up their training.
As for Swimming in Australia, I notice that many of our top swimmers can be coming from outside our 'centralised' set-up. In Badminton, I see many top Indonesian Badminton players are choosing to train in different clubs outside Pelatnas. For Soccer in most countries, most players train in different clubs (many are overseas), and they are called back for a few days (to meet teammates) before an inter-nation match is to be played.
After seeing all these, I can say that the 'centralised training' cannot be said to be the only best type of training (for Malaysia or for any other country).
Last edited by chris-ccc; 12-31-2011 at 04:54 AM.
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01-23-2012, 02:40 AM #954
Centralized training is I believe the best type of training if a country is to become a top badminton power.
Just look at both Indonesia and Malaysia where some of their players have gone independent-another word for selfishness or used-by-date players-why are they slipping down? Their morale is shot to pieces, their team spirit is gone, their egos still intact, but their influence for the up and coming players is bad, very bad.
I predict Indonesia may even disappear from the badminton scene in a decade. I hope I am wrong. But so long as TH is there there is no hope.
01-26-2012, 10:15 AM #955
That was what Tennis players were thinking back in the 1960's
That was what Tennis players were thinking back in the 1960's.
But when Tennis players started to move away from Centralized training, private sponsorships started flowing in. And independent Tennis are reaping $millions now. It all stared from our Australian player, Rod Laver.
You can google search Rod Laver, and read how he transformed Tennis (from associations' players to independent players).
01-27-2012, 01:29 AM #956
Please name me one badminton country that has made any progress at all on the world stage by going independent. Also, please name me one badminton powerhouse that has not slipped down since going independent. Just watch Indonesia because it will not be long before no Indonesians will take to the game.
The greatest tragedy for nations, once powerful badminton countries, have "followed" your advice only to suffer the consequences.
01-27-2012, 02:34 AM #957
Don't tell me Badminton cannot follow Tennis and other sports
Don't tell me Badminton cannot follow Tennis.
Just minutes ago, I posted this in another thread;
01-27-2012, 02:51 AM #958
01-27-2012, 03:10 AM #959
Why Badminton need to stick to a way of promotion that has shown little progress?
I have to disagree.
When we see other sports getting popular because of some new ideas/formats that they have implemented; Why not copy them?
To say it is a "half baked idea"? - I would rather say "the idea has already been baked".
Why does Badminton need to stick to a way of promotion that hasn't shown as much progress as the promotion done by other sports?
Last edited by chris-ccc; 01-27-2012 at 03:20 AM.
01-27-2012, 03:31 AM #960
How Football Association of England run the sport
To me, the most popular sport in the world is Football (Soccer).
I shall send this link for our BCers to read (how the English Football Association run their sport), located at;
Yes, I was hoping that Badminton England would follow it first.
I have been waiting for BE to follow suit for many decades now, and I am still waiting......
01-27-2012, 03:52 AM #961
Your suggestion to go independent in badminton, so that it can "copy" other sports, has done great harm to badminton in Malaysia and Indonesia.
Perhaps, BE, badminton China and Badminton Korea have been lucky to totally ignore your misguided and may I say totally wrong road to nowhere.
Pls let us stick to badminton and not sweep it under the carpet with other field of sports endeavor as a cover for advice blindly applied and greatly misfired.
01-27-2012, 04:17 AM #962
I may be wrong; But I am convinced
I may be wrong; But I am convinced that currently and in the past national associations are not doing any good for our Badminton when they don't support players/coaches wishing to go independent.
I am still upset how Chen Hong, Zhou Mi, Wang Chen, etc, ... were treated by CBA, and how Misbun Sidek was treated by BAM (just to name 2 National Associations).
01-27-2012, 04:41 AM #963
There is an excellent article in Financial Times: "Li Na serves an ace by flying solo" that describes Li Na's adventure in transforming the mind-set in China.
Despite the professionalism in tennis as a sport in many Western countries, many Asian countries (including China) still adopts the association-based system to rule over its players even till now.
Li Na (at the age of 26 then) was among one of the 4 pioneer female tennis players who decided to go independent and break out of the China Tennis Association in 2008. The main reasons cited were the rigidity of the system, the freedom to hire their own coaches, and the desire to earn more of the prize money if they won.
The article correctly identified that the paternalistic system that China uses (through the various national association) has undoubtedly yielded many success over all these years. But, the move to professionalism, which was started by Yao Ming (in basketball) in 2002, had somewhat altered the thought process of many aspiring sportsman and sportswomen.
Surely, Li Na and her fellow compatriots were criticized and ridiculed when they wanted out of the Chinese Tennis Association....especially since early results did not bear fruits. Slowly but surely...after 3 years (in 2011), they began to silence the critics with excellent performances culminating in Li Na nabbing the first ever Grand Slam title for China in the French Open.
If Li Na and her fellow compatriots can achieve success in tennis, why can't badminton players achieve the same things too?
If badminton is to achieve the same success as tennis and other professional sports, professionalism is the way to go! Players can be called up to represent their nations for Thomas/Uber and Sudirman Cups...similar to what tennis did for the Davis/Fed Cups.
01-27-2012, 04:51 AM #964
Professional Players going Professional
That's exactly why I started this thread (Professional Players going Professional) for our BCers to discuss.
The thread is located at;
01-27-2012, 07:57 AM #965
Let me tell you this. If you allow a country's top player, who has so much influence over the rest of the country, to do what pleases him only, he will just enjoy life without any pressure. His decline has become almost a morale-destroyer for the other players.
For this Malaysia's LCW must be given credit for being more far sighted and working for the national interest.
Now that Misbun has left BAM and gone back to grassroots coaching this speaks well of him. This is immeasurably better than sulking and walking away from badminton.
Yes, the ultimate objective of this thread is achieved, although the thread's wordings seem a bit vindictive.
01-27-2012, 02:44 PM #966
Agree with much of what taneepak has said.
Would like to add: Centralised system works best in a country where the ethos and political/legal system encourages centralised control, e.g. China. It also ensures one significant aspect: accountability and responsibility, and enforcement; which IMO is noticably -sadly- lacking in many of the associations in many other (democratic) countries.
01-27-2012, 06:55 PM #967
03-18-2012, 10:21 AM #968
Hello... I'm a newbie here...
Just want to share my opinion here....
The idea of badminton going pro is good....
If only badminton is in the same level as tennis, football, basketball n etc...
If badminton is played widely in the sports powerhouse such as America, UK n etc...
But for now badminton is not a sport which is played widely by sports powerhouse...
That's why badminton player who opted to go pro finds that it's hard for them to survive..
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