Yonex vs Victor

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  1. ghooga

    ghooga Regular Member

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    After being part of this forum for sometime, I find that momentum is shifting towards a fierce competition between Yonex and Victor in gaining badminton equipment's market share instead of the previously debated Yonex vs Li Ning.

    I just want to know you guys' thoughts on this because I myself is drifting towards Victor rackets now in view of those good reviews and the lower prices.
     
  2. ucantseeme

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    I personally think, Victor is improving at the moment. New technogies, new different aerodynamic designs, materials like woven and changes in the stringpattern to 76 or 80 holes. The new releases are promising and continue old lines of products and create new lines like the Spiras and the Meteor. Most of them are top of the end stiff rackets labeled from midstiff to extra stiff.
    At the same time Yonex designed limited signature rackets to boost the sells of older products and milk the cow twice. They introduces the Voltric70 with to me sounding questionable Updates and technogies. After that they launched the lowend/midrange Voltric 5 and 7. By the way, at the near past they launched a lot midrange rackets like AS008, AS5DX and so on. These are many products and they aren't in my opinion necessary. It seems Yonex is willing to upgrade their midrange products, while Victor is developing in the highend rackets for professional players. I thing through these events, Victor is more noticable at events like SSF 2010. Clubplayers and advance players are looking for a new update from a highend range and at the moment Victor release more highend stuff than Yonex. But I think this is only a current situation. On the other hand the Spira wasn't seen often. Old products like the BS10 and SW35 are seen at the current events. So these new rackets must gain ground. In my opinion this is only a current situation of the marketing. Maybe the Spira 21 and 22 can be a flop. In my opinion the Spira 21 is one, now. We will see in the future what happen with the BS12, SW37 and Meteor X80. If the national teams stay with the BS10, SW35 and BS09, the sells can broke in. We will the see in the future what happen, I don't think we are at a crossroad. Time will tell us more...
     
  3. Ferrerkiko

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    To me Yonex can never be in the range of Victor , yonex put tension 22-25, Victor tension is 26-30, eg brave sword 9 , superwave 35 is better than any Yonex racket. Even for clothing . already out in the market are Korea team sleeveless wear , how about Yonex.. in terms of design Victor is much better than Yonex!
     
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    Yonex is still the one to beat and maybe Victor is at the second place.

    I think one of the reasons Li-Ning is not catching up the way as expected is because the fact Li-Ning not a specialised racket company. And therefore their global expansion and marketing strategy must go hand in hand with the overall company strategy, which means perhaps a slower result. For Yonex or Victor, they use a similar strategy which we dont see their actual stores, but their products are distributed by assigned distributors which in turn supply sport shops. Whereas for Li-Ning it seems to have a more top down strategy where their main aim is to have their own stores as well as a well connected distribution chain.

    Li-Ning current objective may also to concentrate on the local market first. With China's population IMO there is no rush for LN to expand too quickly. I believe LN is very strong and ahead of Victor or maybe YY in China

    Soon or later they will expand to all corners of the world, for example there is a news Li-Ning is opening a shop in New Zealand which to me looks like they are testing the water before coming in to Australia (which is a considerably larger market).

    So to sum up, i dont think it will be a 2 horse race between YY and Victor. It will be more of YY, Victor, LN and 2 or 3 more brands (eg. Carlton, Gosen, Flypower, Kumpoo, RSL, etc etc) competing for the market
     
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    How about Apacs 35lbs??? LOL
     
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    Comparing between YY and Victor, personally i dont own any Victor racket as yet, but I tried Spira 21. And interms of quality I have to say that its as good as any YY racket (although my fav racket is still NS9900), and with a slightly lower price Im sure Victor is the way to go now. In my case, i have stop buying YY racket unless its really special like the 3 players edition :) . New YY range eg. VT70 is a waste of money to be honest, i understand the intention (light weight fast and head heavy) but getting it right is totally different story.
     
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    recently I switched from Yonex to Victor as well; that is, when my axes arrive. Have been playing yonex for a long time, There is a market where YY is not really able to compete. In holland it is still yonex that is market leader and in the club I am the second adept, but there will be more.

    H.
     
  8. ghooga

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    I think Yonex still owns the biggest pie in terms of market share. I am of the belief that Victor is Yonex main competitor as it is eating into Yonex' market share. This reminds me of Ford eating into Toyota's market share in the automobile industry (http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/Ford-rises-Toyota-plummets-in-cnnm-1863365314.html).
     
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    definately they do. what I ment was; they (at least here) cannot compete with the prices Victor asks for their rackets and what's more; they have rackets that are between flexible and stiff rackets (i.e. Brave Sword 9). kind of was the factor for me to switch.

    H.
     
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    Well, Ferrer's observation of the tension stated might not be moot. A couple stringers I used have commented that in general Victor's frames are more stable than Yonex's when stringing.

    Personally, I am more interested in Victor's offerings than Yonex's for over a decade now. A large part is that my pocket feels the Yonex difference more than my skill.
     
  11. ucantseeme

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    I think Victor can do something in their racket range. A headlight serie would be nice. These points got to Yonex for their series and assign them in folders. Victors array is a bit curious. Yonex do it well by assign them by balance and then grade them by stiffness. This made it very comfortable for looking and decide a new racket.
     
  12. Winn108

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    I am also a recent migrant from yonex to victor. I still use a cab30ms with nylons but otherwise a bs10. I switched mainly because of price levels, durability, and string tension. If you want to get a yonex that is competitively priced to a victor (both equally high end).. you'd have to buy an sp coded one. And I think most agree that yonex rackets are not as durable. And lastly.. most victors you can string up to 30 lbs.. though I will unlikely be stringing that high.. I like having the option... and knowing that I won't void the warranty :p

    I think victors are about to get more expensive due to its growing popularity (I doubt new technology has a tangible effect on price)... like the victor x80 should be priced about the same range as a new yonex racket.. makes me sad :p
     

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