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    Quote Originally Posted by Sealman View Post
    I took a photo of JJS with his BS12 in the first round of the 2011 Singapore Open. He switched back to the SW35 in the second round.
    i think its SW37,here is my SW37 picture http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1960490&hl=

    Quote Originally Posted by :renegade: View Post
    Maybe i used to stiff racket and i think BS12 is less stiff than VT80. I know i can't compare it to VT80 cos it have different spec. As i said it before it is a good and quick racket but it not suit my playing style, i can play better with my VT80.
    SW37 heavier head than BS12,wanna trade?

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    I'll trade my BS12 for SW37

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    speaking about the victor bs12 i found specs here:http://www.badmintonwarehouse.com/Vi...rvbsword12.htm

    also it says flex is dynamic also noticed flex is dynamic on victors dual pipe rackets. Can someone plz explain to me when they mean the flex is dynamic. becuase im interested in purchasing either a victor or a karakal

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    during the just concluded US Open, two players from Korea are using BS12. Ko Sung Hyun and Ha Jung Eun. Ko won the MD while Ha won both MX and WD.

    LYD was still using the BS09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    I'll trade my BS12 for SW37
    where ur location

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    The 12 has the best paint of all the Braveswords. However, because of the shape of the head, it's never going to be as tough as other designs. Just glad they've dropped the hologram because that falls off when you breathe on the racket!
    Quote Originally Posted by burger View Post
    I think the paint job on Victor rackets are not very good. The paint chipped off at 12 o'clock from mishits since I did not clash with anyone nor scoop shuttles with it.

    The racket itself is a joy to play with

    I had similar experiences with BS09.

    I agreed what burger say ...... The paint job on B12 is not good . But it is a very nice racket to play with .

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    Victor Brave Sword 12 Badminton Racket Review

    In the first half of 2011, Victor came out with 3 different rackets, one from each of its major series, namely, Brave Sword, Super Wave and Spira, that are all colored blue. Not hard to guess that they made it that way as they are the main equipment sponsor of South Korea whose national team color is that same shade of blue. The striking medium blue actually looks very nice on the racket as it is rather unique and very few if any rackets before this have use this color. The only downside is that the accents alone makes it hard to differentiate between the SW37, BS12 and the SP22.

    Victor gave the BS12 it usual Brave Sword treatment, two white accents at the 4/8 oclock position and some black silver accent at the 2/10 o’clock position. Holding in the hand it is a really attractive racket. Victor has done well in the aesthetic of this racket.

    The Victor Brave Sword 12 came off from a pedigree of rackets that are well know for their speed. The technological advancement of the Brave Sword series is the extreme sword blade cross section that is designed to cut through the air like hot knife through butter. I am a happy owner of the Brave Sword 10 (BS10) which was the most incredibly fast racket that i have ever seen. Driving and defending using the BS10 is lightning fast, to the point that it is almost addictive.

    The BS12 is no different. The profile and molding of the BS12 is very similar to the BS10. The same basic frame shape, the same blade cross section, and the same traditional 72 hole stringing pattern.

    The major differentiation beween the BS12 is that the BS12 is a less aggressive racket. Even with the similar balance, it is more moderate on the stiffness. BS10 hold like a wooden stick while the BS12 is more like a whip. This is quite welcoming for player who prefer to have a forgiving racket as the BS10, to be honest, is very difficult to wield.

    Being a Victor racket it makes a perfect match to have string it with Victor flagship as well as our default test string, Victor VS850. I chose a tension of 27x27lbs which brings out some of the repulsive character of the string but not overly high to match the moderate stiffness of BS12. Being a Victor the quality of the grommet is excellent and they sit precisely inside their respective holes. The racket sits tight and only give in slightly at this rather high tension. which is understandable.

    With the standard treatment of 2 layers of RKEP G09 grips it is ready to go to play testing.

    The first feeling upon hitting with the BS12 is that the racket is more forgiving. Impact on the shuttle while still very crisp it is not as hard when compared to the BS10. This is not to say that it is dull, not at all, the feeling is very lively, the shuttle upon impact bounces off with slightly less effort than the BS10 at medium speeds, but lacking a bit of punch when hitting hard. Being a Victor the feelback is very good without over-dampening the racket.

    Now onto actual testing...

    Response of the BS12 is medium fast. Being a mid-stiff and forgiving it is not the fastest of racket. When compared to other stiffer racket like BS10 or MX80 it has a slight delay on power shots, adjustment of timing will definitely be needed there. However, this means that intermediate player without thunderous power will be able to use this racket with ease.

    Stability of the racket is quite good, the light feel of the racket isn’t beefy enough to make it over-stable but adequate.

    The very first impression of the BS12 is that it is less crisp than the BS10 or the MX80. This has got to do with the more forgiving medium stiff rating.

    Drives/Defense is where the BS12 really shines, the sword cross section really cut through the air and make the racket super fast. the lively response of the shaft also means that shuttle bounces off the stringbed fast and precisely.

    Smashing while decent the BS12 isn’t the best smashing racket, the softer shaft and the overall less heft in the racket means that extra effort is needed to propel the shuttle forward properly. the softer shaft also means that the response of the racket overall is slower and someone who is used to stiffer racket will have to adjust their timing.

    Clear/Drops are well with the BS12 as the medium speed shots matches the slow response of the racket well. Shuttlecock flies off with a solid impact on clears and the ample amount of feel/feedback typical of Victor rackets give very good position adjustment/control.

    Overall, i see the BS12 inheriting the pedigree of the Brave Sword range that is designed for speed, if you like super fast drives and quickness in defense, this is a great racket. In particular, the more forgiving BS12 is much more suitable for upper intermediate players who don’t particularly like to hit extra hard shots. Powershot are slightly sacrificed to get to that though.

    Having said that, i have at least one friend who tried it and liked it so much he bought one for himself, and another one who is very tempted to. This should become one of Victors more popular rackets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ti10Purple View Post
    I agreed what burger say ...... The paint job on B12 is not good . But it is a very nice racket to play with .
    It's not the paint that's the problem, it's the shape of the head.

    Go to any sharp corner of your house and hit it with a stick and see what happens. It's the same with the Braveswords. The only way they could remedy this is to not put any paint or graphics on the leading edges of the 'sword'.

    In fact, I think they should do a woven version of the Braveswords with just the clearcoat like the MX80. A slight modification to the graphics and that would largely solve the paint issues.

    Maybe they should do a BS10 Superwoven?

    Seriously, they should hire me. I'm full of great ideas!

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    @ kwun: nice review. Waiting for your mx70 review, should be more powerful albeit slightly less aerodynamic. ....BTW, you always put 2 layers of rkep elites over oem grip?! You're gonna shift your bp headlighter by 8-10mm!

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    Good review Kwun! I have a 2 months old BS12 (with 1 small paint chip) + strung with VS850 to let go. Anyone interested can PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    @ kwun: nice review. Waiting for your mx70 review, should be more powerful albeit slightly less aerodynamic. ....BTW, you always put 2 layers of rkep elites over oem grip?! You're gonna shift your bp headlighter by 8-10mm!
    i dont care too much about BP as i think that's not an accurate measure of head heaviness. esp when adding weight to the grip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    i dont care too much about BP as i think that's not an accurate measure of head heaviness. esp when adding weight to the grip.
    True in a way. That's why sometimes I actually weigh the head itself by placing the racket on a flat level ground, with the tip of the head resting on the scale and the tip of the handle butt resting on a book to elevate it to the same height as the scale.

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    Wow, that's one fat-arse grip Kwun. You're probably adding up to 4mm to the diameter putting two overgrips on!

    Just for fun I overgripped my Powermaster with a 0.6 overgrip and woah was it fat. (wood / Powermaster / 0.6 RKEP overgrip)

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    True in a way. That's why sometimes I actually weigh the head itself by placing the racket on a flat level ground, with the tip of the head resting on the scale and the tip of the handle butt resting on a book to elevate it to the same height as the scale.
    there are other more sound way to measure head-heaviness than just balance and weight. i will gather my thoughts and experiments and will write up my thinking on it.

    but give me a little while as i have been very busy with racket reviews. i still have another 3 racket to test out and still have 6 reviews in the pipeline that i need to write.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    there are other more sound way to measure head-heaviness than just balance and weight. i will gather my thoughts and experiments and will write up my thinking on it.

    but give me a little while as i have been very busy with racket reviews. i still have another 3 racket to test out and still have 6 reviews in the pipeline that i need to write.
    Perchance involving swingweight measurements?

    I googled and there is an iphone app from the makers of RacquetTune, called SwingTool that measures the MOI (moment of inertia) by timing the racket's natural oscillation as a pendulum.

    http://www.appmaker.se/?m=6&s=0
    http://www.appmaker.se/?m=6&s=2

    Hmmm, perhaps I'll have a go at it too!
    Last edited by visor; 09-07-2011 at 03:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Perchance involving swingweight measurements?

    I googled and there is an iphone app from the makers of RacquetTune, called SwingTool that measures the MOI (moment of inertia) by timing the racket's natural oscillation as a pendulum.

    http://www.appmaker.se/?m=6&s=0
    http://www.appmaker.se/?m=6&s=2

    Hmmm, perhaps I'll have a go at it too!
    bingo!

    MOI is the proper way to measure head-heaviness!

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