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01-16-2011, 01:04 PM #1
Leg Under the Net
A friend of mine asked if there was any rule regarding a player's leg going under the net. Is it a fault? Any thoughts?
01-16-2011, 01:12 PM #2
It is only regarded a fault if you eighter touch the net, or the bodypart, racket etc. distracts the opponent.
See rule 13.4.3 in the rule book.
01-17-2011, 12:09 PM #3
13.4.3 says ......
01-18-2011, 06:08 AM #4
I am not sure if I do agree with Chris..
Just imagine a very tight drop where you will need to make the slice action with the racket. It will usually pass slightly under the net.
And when you lunge for a kill, your feet might be slightly over too.
01-18-2011, 06:13 AM #5
01-18-2011, 08:03 AM #6
Ask any umpire
01-18-2011, 10:18 AM #7
Krysser is correct here.
Invading the opponent's court under the net is only a fault if it distracts or obstructs the opponent. If the opponent is not distracted or obstructed, it's not a fault. Read the rule more carefully, and you'll see that's what it means.
Obviously it's up to the umpire to determine whether the action was distracting or obstructive.
01-18-2011, 10:36 AM #8
When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought to myself "what an exciting topic!" Sadly, it is a bit more mundane than I hoped!
In any case, what's the correct term for a "leg under the net" position/situation?
Could it be "footsie?"
01-18-2011, 12:49 PM #9
01-18-2011, 12:54 PM #10
01-18-2011, 01:11 PM #11
01-18-2011, 01:51 PM #12
I think you have misunderstood something about umpireing, since it is all about the umpires judgement. It is his/her split second decisions and interpretation/knowledge of the rules.
Last edited by krysser; 01-18-2011 at 01:55 PM.
01-18-2011, 02:20 PM #13
Rules are primarily meant to ensure fair play and general conduct, among other things. If the rules become stifling in their context and interpretation, they defeat the purpose of "play" and "sport" and umpires are there to ensure that "sportsmanship" is practised.
02-04-2011, 04:27 PM #14
I think the "under the net" rule can be found analogous to the over the net with a follow through rule.
As the rule is written, it's pretty clear that it's a fault if it's obstructive or a distraction but not a fault if it isn't.
"if, in play, a player invades an opponent’s court under the net with racket or person such that an opponent is obstructed or distracted"
pretty clear english to me...
In casual play, a person won't even notice that you've invaded their court under the net UNLESS it actually distracts them so it's an easy call IMO.
Last edited by druss; 02-04-2011 at 04:36 PM. Reason: additional info
02-04-2011, 05:31 PM #15
There are quite a few rules which depend on an umpires judgement
Of course, we are not talking about casual play, but talking about tournaments (let's say International tournaments).
When I posted: Why have a rule that depends on an umpire's judgement?; I meant exactly every word of it.
When I play in a game and if an opponent has his/her leg and/or racket coming under the net into my side of the court, I would be distracted. This is a fact: I would be distracted.
I don't need an umpire to tell me:- "No, you shouldn't be distracted because your opponent wasn't meant to distract you; It was only an accidental occurrence".
Hope you see what I mean.
Last edited by chris-ccc; 02-04-2011 at 05:36 PM.
02-04-2011, 05:41 PM #16
I don't know how you can say with such conviction that "I would be distracted". Maybe your downward peripheral vision is just that much better than mine is but I could not say with such conviction that I would even notice it, much less be distracted by it.
Last edited by druss; 02-04-2011 at 05:45 PM.
02-04-2011, 05:54 PM #17
Because I always pay attention to my opponent's feet and rackethead
Because I always pay attention to my opponent's feet (ie his footwork) so that I can plan where to place my next shot (to wrong foot him/her).
Similarly, for the rackethead of where my opponent is positioning it, so that my next shot won't be intercepted/blocked.
Rules should be made as clear and as precise as possible. If not, different outcomes will come out from different umpires.
This is just my opinion.
Last edited by chris-ccc; 02-04-2011 at 06:00 PM.