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    Arrow The 2011 Asian Junior Championships Boys Singles champion is an independent player

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    Ironically, switching from badminton to tennis was not a Li Na's decision, it was the recommendation from a Chinese badminton coach in "the system" that people is now criticizing!!!
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    Perhaps that Badminton coach thought Li Na won't make a great Badminton player.

    Anyway, let's move away from talking about Tennis and Li Na. Let's return to talk about Badminton.

    We now have an independent player who won the 2011 Asian Junior Championships Boys Singles title. He is Zulfadli Zulkifli from Malaysia.

    Zulfadli’s achievement in India has in a way raised concern over the junior programme in BAM – especially in the Singles department.

    He has been successful when many other BAM shuttlers had failed. Over the last few years, three shuttlers – Mohd Arif Abdul Latif, Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainuddin and Loh Wei Sheng froze in their respective final appearances and settled for the runner-up spots in the Asian junior meet.

    The success of an outsider surely raises many questions on what has been happening inside BJSS.

    Source: http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...365&sec=sports

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    Monday 11-July-2011
    By RAJES PAUL

    KUALA LUMPUR: Three points were made clear when youngster Zulfadli Zulkifli accomplished the historic feat of becoming Malaysia’s first boy’s singles badminton champion at the Asian Junior Championships in Lucknow, India on Sunday.

    Firstly, his breakthrough showed that there are talents in Malaysia to take over the mantle from world No. 1 singles shuttler Lee Chong Wei, who plans to slow down after the London Olympic Games next year.

    Yesterday, the 18-year-old Zulfadli raised a glimmer of hope for a better future in the singles department when he beat India’s Verma Sameer 21-15, 21-17 to end Malaysia’s agonising 14-year wait for the elusive title.

    He has put himself as one of the strong contenders to become the country’s first singles champion at the World Junior Championships, which will be held in Taiwan in October.

    China’s current stars like Lin Dan, Chen Jin, Chen Long and South Korea’s Park Sung-hwan all went on to have successful senior careers after winning the Asian junior title and hopes are high for Zulfadli to follow suit.

    With proper guidance and grooming Zulfadli can be Malaysia’s flag bearer in all major tournaments leading to the 2016 Olympic Games in Brazil .

    “This is a great start for me. I hope to achieve more good results. I still have a long way to go but I am determined to work hard in my mission to become the country’s top player” said Zulfadli.

    Secondly, Zulfadli’s win is also seen as a big boost for independent shuttlers and clubs. Clubs and private badminton academies will now be more motivated to continue with their efforts to produce champions to complement the work done by the Bad*min*ton Association of Malaysia (BAM).

    The lanky Zulfadli’s win is unique in a way because he did not come through the BAM’s centralised training system. In fact, he benefited mainly from his father Zulkifli Sidek’s personal coaching and also due to some short stints with state teams. He was also lucky that KL Rackets (KLRC) funded him for local and international tournaments.

    His breakthrough certainly gives hope to those aspiring shuttlers who had failed to make the yearly selection into the Bukit Jalil Sports School (BJSS), where the BAM’s best juniors are housed.

    Finally, Zulfadli’s achievement in India has in a way raised concern over the junior programme in BAM – especially in the singles department.

    He has been successful when many other BAM shuttlers had failed. Over the last few years, three shuttlers – Mohd Arif Abdul Latif, Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainuddin and Loh Wei Sheng froze in their respective final appearances and settled for the runner-up spots in the Asian junior meet.

    The success of an outsider surely raises many questions on what has been happening inside BJSS.

    Do they have the right coaches to groom the singles players? Are the right singles players selected into the BJSS? Are the international exposures enough for the juniors in BJSS to toughen them up mentally? What gets priority in BJSS – studies or sports?

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    Will Zulfadli Zulkifli continue as an independent player into his senior years?
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    Default who will sponsor him 10 years ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Wouldn't it be nice if Lin Dan can play as an individual?; getting sponsored by;

    * Yonex (for racket)
    * Li Ning (for clothing)
    * Nike (for shoes)
    * Emirates Airlines (for air travel)
    * Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank (for banking)
    * MacDonalds (for fast food)
    * Red Bull (for energy drink)
    * Mercedes-Benze (for car)
    * etc, etc, ......


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    What if a talented player came from a less wealthy family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Like what Li Na said in Post #1;

    "If you stay in the national team you don't need to take care of anything... They do everything for you," she said.

    "But right now I have my team around with me... If I'm lazy, I want to rest, I can say, 'Okay, now stop - I want to rest'.

    "Before if I (were) on the national team, I have to follow the team because I couldn't do many thing as one because we are the team."


    It's about players going on their own and having independence from their National Associations at Individual events/tournaments.

    Most of them will play for their National Associations when asked to do so at Inter-Nations events/tournaments; like at the Thomas, Uber, and Sudirman Cups, and at the Olympic Games. National Associations will include them as their players. The only thing is: Professional players can go out on their own to get their own sponsors, without needing their National Associations' approval.
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    You may need to read her time interview to understand more her view on stay in national team

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    Arrow Li Na: "I prefer what I'm doing now. I'm the boss, so it's much easier."

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    You may need to read her time interview to understand more her view on stay in national team.
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    Yes, I have read the Time interview (By William Lee Adams Thursday, June 16, 2011)

    http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...077907,00.html

    Two of the questions;

    Question: Back in 2008, you split with the Chinese Tennis Association, which was entitled to 65% of your earnings. Was that decision based on money, or was there more to it?
    Answer: Sixty-five percent is like normal because the [All-China Sports] Federation pays everything for you — they pay for the coach, hotel, traveling. If you stay in the national team, even if you don't do well, you still have money. I think now there's even more pressure [on me] because I have to pay for myself. We still have to pay a little percentage back to the federation. But I wanted more challenges.

    Question: Do you have more passion for tennis now?
    Answer: Before, I felt like tennis was my job. I prefer what I'm doing now. I'm the boss, so it's much easier.

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    i think its beta for good players to go independent

    cos until now sports is still a very political sports, n not complete in the true name of sportsmanship.

    there r too many good n high ranking players who cannot complete becoz of certain political or conflicts with its country association officials or people, this is highly unfair.

    players entry into any individual competition should be on merit of ranking or results as in swimming have their heats timing.

    only when in those group competition such as sudirman cup, thomas cup n uber cup can the individual company association come in to select the players they wish to field, it may not be the highest rank. it is the county choice as the honours goes straight back to the country.

    for the individual games prizes, individual players should pocket the full amount as long the association is not paying for his training in anyway.

    my imo only.

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    Thumbs up Players entry into any individual competition should be on merit of ranking

    Quote Originally Posted by a|extan View Post
    i think its beta for good players to go independent cos until now sports is still a very political sports, n not complete in the true name of sportsmanship.

    there r too many good n high ranking players who cannot compete becoz of certain political or conflicts with its country association officials or people, this is highly unfair.

    players entry into any individual competition should be on merit of ranking or results as in swimming have their heats timing.

    only when in those group competition such as sudirman cup, thomas cup n uber cup can the individual company association come in to select the players they wish to field, it may not be the highest rank. it is the county choice as the honours goes straight back to the country.

    for the individual games prizes, individual players should pocket the full amount as long the association is not paying for his training in anyway.

    my imo only.

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    And I also think the same.

    It's about time for members from the BWF to tell National Associations not interfere with the qualification system that BWF have created.

    Why should a National Association decide on whom they wish to choose to participate, when BWF already have a ranking system which determines who has already qualified (based on performance at past BWF tournaments) ???
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    Arrow Independent Badminton Players List Update

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    Adding Tan Chun Seang (MAS) and Chong Li Qun (MAS) to the Independent Badminton Players List

    1. Taufik Hidayat (INA)
    2. Hendra Setiawan/Markis Kido (INA)
    3. Vita Marissa/Nova Widianto (INA)
    4. Tommy Sugiarto (INA)
    5. Alamsyah Yunus (INA)
    6. Hendra Aprida Gunawan/Alvent Yulianto (INA)
    7. Maria Kristin Yulianti (INA)
    8. Tri Kusuma/Nadya Melati (INA)
    9. Vita Marissa/Nadya Melati (INA)
    10. Kido/Lita Nurlita (INA)
    11. Tony Gunawan (USA)
    12. Dicky Palyama (NED)
    13. Eric Pang (NED)
    14. Judith Meulendijks (NED)
    15. Yao Jie (NED)
    16. Zulfadli Zulkifli (MAS)
    17. Hafiz Hashim (MAS)
    18. Kuan Beng Hong (MAS)
    19. Gan Teik Chai/Tan Bin Shen (MAS)
    20. Wong Choong Hann (MAS)
    21. Lee Wan Wah/Chan Chong Ming (MAS)
    22. Julia Wong (MAS)
    23. Tan Chun Seang (MAS)*
    24. Chong Li Qun (MAS)*

    * Latest addition

    Source: http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.a...327&sec=sports

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    Banned Tan Chun Seang to play in Germany

    thestar online
    Friday July 22, 2011

    KUALA LUMPUR: Former international men singles shuttler Tan Chun Seang will be celebrating his 25th birthday today with a big smile.

    Yesterday, the former top back-up player signed up a deal with Apacs in a bid to revive his badminton career as a professional player and prove that there is still some good badminton in him.

    Apacs will sponsor his three-month stint with PTSV Rosenheim, a club in Germany. He will participate in the German league and will also take part in the German Open at Munich to improve his world ranking.

    The left-handed Chun Seang, who is currently ranked 163rd in the world has been banned by BAM from competing in Asian tournaments for the next two years for walking out on the national team.

    Chun Seang is the first Malaysian shuttler to serve a ban for two years for sending a resignation letter to the BAM. The player decided that he was unable to contribute anymore in the elite team after his game had stagnated.

    Kedahan Chun Seang, however, was happy to get a second chance to revive his career.

    “I am no longer injured and looking forward to the stint in Europe. I will give my best to improve my game. Eventually, I hope to compete in the Super Series events,” said Chun Seang.

    Apacs manager Jebbery Lim said that it would be worth their money to send Chun Seang to Europe.

    “Apacs has a market in Europe and Chun Seang will be able to market and promote the brand for us. We are looking forward to our partnership with Chun Seang,” said Jebbery.

    With Chun Seang’s entry, Apacs now have a total of five players under their banner. The others are new recruit Chong Li Qun and three old timers – Gan Teik Chai-Tan Bin Shen and Kuan Beng Hong.

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    I am so happy that we now have Zulfadli Zulkifli (becoming our World Badminton Junior Champion (2011)) participating as an independent player (although he was still representing Malaysia).

    Let's hope for more sponsors who would come in to support independent players, and allow them to remain as independent players (just like many sponsors who are supporting players in Tennis, Golf, etc......). instead of just sponsoring players who are players from National Associations.
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    Maybe we can add pia zebaidah in the list . Wait for her first tournament as professional player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bal-bal View Post
    Maybe we can add pia zebaidah in the list . Wait for her first tournament as professional player.
    Yes, why not
    And hopefully that Pia can more progress after status is changed it

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvina View Post
    Yes, why not And hopefully that Pia can more progress after stats is changed it
    Yup, like her ex-boyfriend Tommy Sugiarto

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    Quote Originally Posted by bal-bal View Post
    Maybe we can add pia zebaidah in the list . Wait for her first tournament as professional player.
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    Thanks bal-bal for informing us, and we shall add in Pia Zebadiah.

    Professional Players going Independent
    1. Taufik Hidayat (INA)
    2. Hendra Setiawan/Markis Kido (INA)
    3. Vita Marissa/Nova Widianto (INA)
    4. Tommy Sugiarto (INA)
    5. Alamsyah Yunus (INA)
    6. Hendra Aprida Gunawan/Alvent Yulianto (INA)
    7. Maria Kristin Yulianti (INA)
    8. Tri Kusuma/Nadya Melati (INA)
    9. Vita Marissa/Nadya Melati (INA)
    10. Kido/Lita Nurlita (INA)
    11. Tony Gunawan (USA)
    12. Dicky Palyama (NED)
    13. Eric Pang (NED)
    14. Judith Meulendijks (NED)
    15. Yao Jie (NED)
    16. Zulfadli Zulkifli (MAS)
    17. Hafiz Hashim (MAS)
    18. Kuan Beng Hong (MAS)
    19. Gan Teik Chai/Tan Bin Shen (MAS)
    20. Wong Choong Hann (MAS)
    21. Lee Wan Wah/Chan Chong Ming (MAS)
    22. Julia Wong (MAS)
    23. Tan Chun Seang (MAS)
    24. Chong Li Qun (MAS)
    25. Pia Zebadiah (INA)*

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
    .Thanks bal-bal for informing us, and we shall add in Pia Zebadiah.
    You're welcome chris

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    Arrow Lin Dan said Li Na should be regarded as China's outstanding performer in 2011

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    While top CHN Tennis player, Li Na, was here in Melbourne for our 2011 Australian Tennis Open, she made this comment;

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    GOING ALONE

    ............ Li, Peng, Zheng and Yan Zi, a two-time grand slam doubles champion, were granted leave by China's tennis association to organize their own tours and pick their coaches in a ground-breaking move in a country where most athletes remain yoked to a Soviet-style sports system.

    Li, who wears a tattoo of a rose and a love heart on her chest, has played her best tennis since breaking from the system and enjoys the freedom to decide her own training after clashing with Chinese officials for a number of years.

    "If you stay in the national team you don't need to take care of anything... They do everything for you," she said.

    "But right now I have my team around with me... If I'm lazy, I want to rest, I can say, 'Okay, now stop - I want to rest'.

    "Before if I (were) on the national team, I have to follow the team because I couldn't do many thing as one because we are the team."

    Her husband has also helped take the pressure off by worrying about the finances while letting Li go wild with a credit card.

    He also has the duty of watching out for her next opponent, either Maria Sharapova or Andrea Petkovic.

    "I think this is my husband's job. I just lie down on the bed and enjoy watching TV, that's all," she said.

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    Today, 31-Dec-2011, it was reported that Lin Dan said that tennis ace Li Na should be regarded as China's outstanding performer this year (2011).

    "Though her championship is different from those we have won at the Olympics, she has changed the way the world values China's sport. I hope many other (Chinese) can achieve this, too," said Lin Dan.

    Source: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/cndy/20...t_14361668.htm

    I wonder if Lin Dan is thinking of going independent after the 2012 London Olympic Games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    I wonder if Lin Dan is thinking of going independent after the 2012 London Olympic Games.
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    I hope LD does go independent after OLY12 whether he wins or not. If LD wins OLY12 gold, that would cement his greatest of all time legendary status and going independent LD has nothing to lose as most likely CHN is looking to replace him anyway. The question I have is would LYB allows him to do that, cos' if LD does succeeds as independent, would that disrupt 'The System' and encourage more players to go independent. That may be nightmare for the boss. Another question is LD has won a lot of prize money over the years, is the cash in LD bank account or withhold by the boss, if so, going independent is not that easy and really at the mercy of the boss

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
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    Thanks bal-bal for informing us, and we shall add in Pia Zebadiah.

    Professional Players going Independent
    1. Taufik Hidayat (INA)
    2. Hendra Setiawan/Markis Kido (INA)
    3. Vita Marissa/Nova Widianto (INA)
    4. Tommy Sugiarto (INA)
    5. Alamsyah Yunus (INA)
    6. Hendra Aprida Gunawan/Alvent Yulianto (INA)
    7. Maria Kristin Yulianti (INA)
    8. Tri Kusuma/Nadya Melati (INA)
    9. Vita Marissa/Nadya Melati (INA)
    10. Kido/Lita Nurlita (INA)
    11. Tony Gunawan (USA)
    12. Dicky Palyama (NED)
    13. Eric Pang (NED)
    14. Judith Meulendijks (NED)
    15. Yao Jie (NED)
    16. Zulfadli Zulkifli (MAS)
    17. Hafiz Hashim (MAS)
    18. Kuan Beng Hong (MAS)
    19. Gan Teik Chai/Tan Bin Shen (MAS)
    20. Wong Choong Hann (MAS)
    21. Lee Wan Wah/Chan Chong Ming (MAS)
    22. Julia Wong (MAS)
    23. Tan Chun Seang (MAS)
    24. Chong Li Qun (MAS)
    25. Pia Zebadiah (INA)*

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    kindly add Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif as they are currently independent players.

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    Thumbs up Professional players going independent

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    Adding in Zakry Latif/Fairuzizuan Tazari.

    Professional players going independent
    1. Taufik Hidayat (INA)
    2. Hendra Setiawan/Markis Kido (INA)
    3. Vita Marissa/Nova Widianto (INA)
    4. Tommy Sugiarto (INA)
    5. Alamsyah Yunus (INA)
    6. Hendra Aprida Gunawan/Alvent Yulianto (INA)
    7. Maria Kristin Yulianti (INA)
    8. Tri Kusuma/Nadya Melati (INA)
    9. Vita Marissa/Nadya Melati (INA)
    10. Kido/Lita Nurlita (INA)
    11. Tony Gunawan (USA)
    12. Dicky Palyama (NED)
    13. Eric Pang (NED)
    14. Judith Meulendijks (NED)
    15. Yao Jie (NED)
    16. Zulfadli Zulkifli (MAS)
    17. Hafiz Hashim (MAS)
    18. Kuan Beng Hong (MAS)
    19. Gan Teik Chai/Tan Bin Shen (MAS)
    20. Wong Choong Hann (MAS)
    21. Lee Wan Wah/Chan Chong Ming (MAS)
    22. Julia Wong (MAS)
    23. Tan Chun Seang (MAS)
    24. Chong Li Qun (MAS)
    25. Pia Zebadiah (INA)
    26. Zakry Latif/Fairuzizuan Tazari (MAS)*

    * Latest addition
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