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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan View Post
    Hi brother. No one bother to answer our queries ....... may be SW37 is not a popular racket , so no one will visit this thread anymore. Fyi, there are some shops in KL which are selling various racket like in Pertama Complex.
    I don't think it's a common racket... Been to shop again yesterday holding a sw36 and it feels good as well, maybe the stiffness same with my bs11. The owner said the sw37 defence is good as well due to it's medium stiff. Man I'm not sure. Just scared the sw37 feel heavy than bs11. Anyway its selling in melaka Rm400 with string and bag. Izzit good deal? But no stock. gotta wait.

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    Any owner of sw37 pls share your review???

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    Quote Originally Posted by kvn4000 View Post
    I don't think it's a common racket... Been to shop again yesterday holding a sw36 and it feels good as well, maybe the stiffness same with my bs11. The owner said the sw37 defence is good as well due to it's medium stiff. Man I'm not sure. Just scared the sw37 feel heavy than bs11. Anyway its selling in melaka Rm400 with string and bag. Izzit good deal? But no stock. gotta wait.
    RM400 shoud be reasonable. There is a shop selling the frame of SW37 at RM350 (without bag & string).

    jump-smash has one SW37, hope he can share with us. I am interested to know the difference between SW36 & SW37

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    hi,wanna share my SW37 with all of u

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    i choose red and...
    grip replacement fail! looks like Lin Dan grip LOL!

    player info : beginner wanna be intermediate,playing twice a week,already 2 years with badminton
    176" and 105kg ,right handed,buying new racket for smashing "pleasure" ...

    racket info : Victor SW37,strung with ecp machine at 25lbs,2 knot, Yonex BG66 ultimax white color,
    price is RM390,racket with string and wilson overgrip,

    review : this is personal taste ok,different people got different taste,...i use Prince TT2400 before,when i were 1st holding the SW37 it feel a bit heavy and the handle is somehow feel "hard" ,...after it get strung i do feel it a bit lite before this(i dunno why,dont ask >.<) ,...to preserve the original grip,i put a Wilson Pro overgrip to it,and the handle still feel hard,i wrap up another Dunlop Gekco overgrip,so i can get "smooth" feel,so when i smash my palm will not feel hurt.(ps: the softest grip i ever try is Fleet replacement grip) ,but i still can't feel right with the SW37,..

    after 2 weeks,i put it on sale at RM400,but no one interested with it,so i just take off the original grip and put a new karakal PU Super replacement grip( i hate replacement because of its glue,that's why i always use overgrip even i need to pay extra RM7.00*2=RM14.00 for it!... after try for one day(2hrs of playing) ,i feel its comfort and power ,...i always looking for my TT2400 replacement,its a good racket,but it some kind lack of power when smashing ,and the SW37 is my answer for it ,its my main racket now, if before this i always change between Prince TT2400 and Carlton Aerosonic X-833 GLO between game but this time i only use SW37 ALL THE TIME!

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    my Carlton Aerosonic X-833 GLO,bought it RM230,sold it at RM150 ,its a fast racket,got frame shape like BS12,but lack of smash power ...

    that's all from me,mind that i just a regular badminton player,not a club member or pro player ,any question i will try answer it
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    Quote Originally Posted by jump-smash View Post
    so last night I played two games
    I use MX80 and SW37
    with MX80 the smashes are more steep in angle
    while with SW37 the smashes are more flat
    it's more difficult to control smash direction with SW35 ... I even hit the shuttle outside the line
    but with MX80 it's more precise / accurate so it is better for channeled attack
    although with the SW37 your opponents will never know where your shots will go
    so you'll keep them guessing ... whether is gonna be flat or acute angle
    it's good for surprises and variations of shots hahaha LOL

    I also had a friend called Nico to do all the smashes with SW37 and MX80 while I defend with BS10
    I can see that the shuttle fly faster toward me when he use SW37 but it's more flat then when he use MX80
    so this confirm my own observation at the beginning
    Hi Jump Smash, this is a very interesting scenario. I also have experience with switching SW35, AT900P(stiff) to a mid stiff racket (like Z slash).

    I usually use SW35. But one day, I use my secondary racket, Z Slash. I started off with Smashing to net quite often. and felt slower than SW35.

    I think the kick point(due to head heavy/light balance) defers between them and the timing of the flex (shaft stiffness). My bro use the AT900P, and he tried Z slash, but could not generate fast smash. I think this is due to the way we flex/swing our main rackets.

    Personally, i feel that Mid stiff racket - to get more power into your shots - is swing earlier and stop earlier (comparing to stiffer racket) Just like the example "the chain and the pole".
    Mid stiff racket is like the shorter pole/longer chain. It needs more time to generate more power. (the potential power is stored in the shaft for slightly longer time(before it release out, flex forward) than a stiffer racket)

    if the racket is head heavy balance, then the Kick point will be lower (depending on the shaft stiffness) stiffer = slightly higher KP.

    If the racket is head light balance, then the Kick point will be higher.

    If KP is lower, then we need to adjust the timing of the swing(generative) technique.

    If you use a stiffer racket, you will tend to use more explosive/short(sudden) technique (use more forearm and wrist, fingers). that's why more pro doubles player use stiffer rackets, because it gives them better control/feel of shots during fast exchanges.

    ok that's all for now.

    Brb in 30 mins

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    Agile,

    Excellent understanding of kick point!

    So, to get a steep angle smash with a flexier racket requires more of a whipping motion, ie. earlier forward stroke with a slight pullback action at the end in order to whip the racket face forward and downward.

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    indeed...i can't fully understand but i think i can visualise :P

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    Hi zero_hour, Could u kindly share is the sw37 feel much heavier than bs11? I really dunno to buy a bs12 or sw37!!! Very very very confused!!!Btw nice post on ur date! Haha

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    Sorry ... it's been quite some time now since the last I login BC
    SW37 is not as common as SW35
    but I've already sold my SW35 because I don't feel comfortable with it due to it's stiffness and head-heaviness
    now I use mainly Spr22, MX80 and SW37 which I find more comfortable and suitable for me
    it's kinda weird because MX80 have about the same stiffness with SW35 but feel more even-balanced
    while SW37 is even-balanced and medium stiffness, it's user friendly and forgiving but still can generate powerful smashes when you need them
    it's all in the technique and timing, might need some time to fully adapt from SW35 to SW37 though but it's really worth it.

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    Thanks jump-smash for your sharing. Have been waiting for you as I know you are using SW37. Would like to clarify the following:

    1. Is it easy to fully adapt from MX80 to SW37? Thinking of switching between them for different kind of play, one is for speed and another for power play. Your comment?? I know about BS series which are really fast, but the power cannot be generated easily, so I considering Super Waves series.

    2. In fact, I am considering between SW36 and SW37? You have any idea about their difference? I know that SW36 is stiffer than SW37, thus can generate more power? Both are quite at the same lightness also? Please comment.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kvn4000 View Post
    Hi zero_hour, Could u kindly share is the sw37 feel much heavier than bs11? I really dunno to buy a bs12 or sw37!!! Very very very confused!!!Btw nice post on ur date! Haha
    haha,thanks ,....i try bs11 at the shop(without string) ,yup the SW37 is heavier than bs11, all my racket is rated 86+2gram including TT2400 and SW37 but i know its different ,after buying so many racket from so many brand,i realize one thing,don't trust 100% specification the manufacture give, most of them is not accurate,it's just for reference ...i dare to bought the SW37 even know its heavy(the most heavy racket i use, i got apacs TanTrum200,Yonex Voltric 7 before) because i know i can alter the balance point later on with applying grip ,i always use 2 overgrip coz my palm is big

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    Quote Originally Posted by zero_hour View Post
    haha,thanks ,....i try bs11 at the shop(without string) ,yup the SW37 is heavier than bs11, all my racket is rated 86+2gram including TT2400 and SW37 but i know its different ,after buying so many racket from so many brand,i realize one thing,don't trust 100% specification the manufacture give, most of them is not accurate,it's just for reference ...i dare to bought the SW37 even know its heavy(the most heavy racket i use, i got apacs TanTrum200,Yonex Voltric 7 before) because i know i can alter the balance point later on with applying grip ,i always use 2 overgrip coz my palm is big
    Thanks for sharing I guess must hold the actual racket b4 I decide... Sigh... Btw talk to Far East (Victor Supplier) just now to the Person in charge and he advised me that don't use 2 different rackets. In fact he ask me get another bs11!! Haha more confused now :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kvn4000 View Post
    Thanks for sharing I guess must hold the actual racket b4 I decide... Sigh... Btw talk to Far East (Victor Supplier) just now to the Person in charge and he advised me that don't use 2 different rackets. In fact he ask me get another bs11!! Haha more confused now :-)
    of coz,its hard to adapt the new racket when we always change it,im so lucky the SW37 not much different from my TT2400,it's just a bit@minor heavy and when smash it's more powerfull/easy,i would say i can get 35% more power from my TT2400

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan View Post
    Thanks jump-smash for your sharing. Have been waiting for you as I know you are using SW37. Would like to clarify the following:

    1. Is it easy to fully adapt from MX80 to SW37? Thinking of switching between them for different kind of play, one is for speed and another for power play. Your comment?? I know about BS series which are really fast, but the power cannot be generated easily, so I considering Super Waves series.

    2. In fact, I am considering between SW36 and SW37? You have any idea about their difference? I know that SW36 is stiffer than SW37, thus can generate more power? Both are quite at the same lightness also? Please comment.

    Thanks.
    1. yes Brave Swords series especially BS12 is built for swing speed but BS11 and BS10 are more powerful. They are good for defense and fast drive.
    2. as for Super Wave series are built for smashing power so it's good for attacking / offensive play. The only difference between them (SW35, SW36, and SW37) are their stiffness (5/5, 4/5 and 3/5)
    3. and for Spira series Spr22 is good for control, and manoeuverability so it's good for placement, drive and defensive play.
    4. MX80 is combination of all the above taking the basic form of BS10. I call it muscle BS10 on steroid hahaha LOL.
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    But after-all it's all in the technique and timing ... and of course skill
    as I said many many times before
    even by using Spr22 I can still generate quite damaging smashing power
    and adding to it is acute angle and placement in the smash

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    Quote Originally Posted by jump-smash View Post
    1. yes Brave Swords series especially BS12 is built for swing speed but BS11 and BS10 are more powerful. They are good for defense and fast drive.
    2. as for Super Wave series are built for smashing power so it's good for attacking / offensive play. The only difference between them (SW35, SW36, and SW37) are their stiffness (5/5, 4/5 and 3/5)
    3. and for Spira series Spr22 is good for control, and manoeuverability so it's good for placement, drive and defensive play.
    4. MX80 is combination of all the above taking the basic form of BS10. I call it muscle BS10 on steroid hahaha LOL.
    Since I am using MX80 which is stiff, is it better for me to buy SW36 which has the same stiffness so that the power generated will be about the same (or more??) as compared to SW37? Another word, I will be able to adapt to SW36 from MX80 easier compared to switching to SW37?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aryan View Post
    Since I am using MX80 which is stiff, is it better for me to buy SW36 which has the same stiffness so that the power generated will be about the same (or more??) as compared to SW37? Another word, I will be able to adapt to SW36 from MX80 easier compared to switching to SW37?
    if you like stiff rackets why don't you try SW35
    it's the stiffest of them all together with MX80, BS10 and Spr21
    SW36 stiffness is almost the same as BS11 and Spr22
    while SW37 stiffness = BS12
    one more thing to consider is Balance Point
    SW35 is more Head Heavy (297 mm)
    SW37 is more Head Light (287 mm)
    SW36 BP is unknown to me because I've never tried one before

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