Victor Super Waves 37

**riffsuad** · 10-26-2011, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheSmasherKing

how much did u bought ur sw37?

is it 3ug2 or 4ug2?

in malaysia you can get around rm350 depend on shop you go. but currently no stock untill end nov 2011.

**riffsuad** · 10-29-2011, 09:51 AM

jjs didnt use sw37 anymore. he just use mx 80 in french open. he smash very powerful.

**TheSmasherKing** · 10-29-2011, 06:11 PM

WHAT!!!! REALLY!!!! Why? i was about to buy SW37 & SW35... did he choose MX80 permenently?

Originally Posted by riffsuad

jjs didnt use sw37 anymore. he just use mx 80 in french open. he smash very powerful.

**riffsuad** · 10-30-2011, 03:52 AM

tonight just watch his game how good his smash using mx80.

**TheSmasherKing** · 10-30-2011, 05:29 AM

i watched the semi last night... mx80 was great for smashing!!!! during denmark open, jjs while have to play at the front while using sw37...i guess sw37 is for net n control game, not smashing...

Originally Posted by riffsuad

tonight just watch his game how good his smash using mx80.

**j4ckie** · 10-30-2011, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by TheSmasherKing

i watched the semi last night... mx80 was great for smashing!!!! during denmark open, jjs while have to play at the front while using sw37...i guess sw37 is for net n control game, not smashing...

I would definitely not say that. The fact that JJS smashed harder with the MX80 does not say much about the rackets, it just indicates he is either more familiar with the MX or his smashing motion is most effective with less head heavy or stiffer rackets.....many possibilities here.
For the average player, the SW37 should be the better racket for smashing. It's not as stiff as the MX80 and head heavier, both factors that usually produce a harder smash for intermediate or advanced players.
If your only concern is the smash, go with the SW37.

**TheSmasherKing** · 10-30-2011, 06:31 AM

in some points, i do agree with u...

medium shaft and head heavy frame is suitable for average player who wants a attacking racket... and it will save a lot of energy too while smashing for intermediate player (compared to stiffer n heavier frame like mx80)... well, what i really meant in my previous post was i think jjs spent most of the time at the front while using sw37 compared to while using mx80 during their match at denmark open...

anyway, it's just my opinion... and i still believe that sw 37 is a good new racket...

hope to be able to try / buy 1 soon...

Originally Posted by j4ckie

I would definitely not say that. The fact that JJS smashed harder with the MX80 does not say much about the rackets, it just indicates he is either more familiar with the MX or his smashing motion is most effective with less head heavy or stiffer rackets.....many possibilities here.
For the average player, the SW37 should be the better racket for smashing. It's not as stiff as the MX80 and head heavier, both factors that usually produce a harder smash for intermediate or advanced players.
If your only concern is the smash, go with the SW37.

**j4ckie** · 10-30-2011, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by TheSmasherKing

in some points, i do agree with u...

medium shaft and head heavy frame is suitable for average player who wants a attacking racket... and it will save a lot of energy too while smashing for intermediate player (compared to stiffer n heavier frame like mx80)... well, what i really meant in my previous post was i think jjs spent most of the time at the front while using sw37 compared to while using mx80 during their match at denmark open...

anyway, it's just my opinion... and i still believe that sw 37 is a good new racket...

hope to be able to try / buy 1 soon...

I didn't notice anything like that - only that his smash was more powerful with the MX. It's not heavier than the SW37, btw - both vary in weight, but the SW has the higher BP, which makes it the slower and heavier-feeling racket.
For anyone up to a near-pro level, the SW37 should produce a harder smash, because the MX is indeed very stiff. It's pretty quick, so players who like the NS series or BS10/11 will probably get a good smash out of it, but for most players, this is a control racket, allowing you to place the shuttle very very accurately but limiting your power in return.

**riffsuad** · 10-30-2011, 06:56 AM

to produce good smash you need to have good timing and good technique. but in the game your energy will drain a lot if they depend so well. so selection of racket also important to help you to manage your energy.

**zero_hour** · 11-01-2011, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by riffsuad

to produce good smash you need to have good timing and good technique. but in the game your energy will drain a lot if they depend so well. so selection of racket also important to help you to manage your energy.

i like ur comment

**Densha** · 11-01-2011, 06:02 AM

Hello, I'm not sure JJS smashes harder with MX 80 than SW 37 I would've said the contrary. Seems like the racket he picks depends on the players has to face.
I've seen him using both SW37 and MX80 during the french open.
I think he picks MX 80 when he needs more speed and fast attacking play like he has to against FHF/CY.
They usually win when they take the initiative and attack even though they have a huge defense.
JJS has played pretty well during the finals

very good in both defense and attack and also at the net =)

**riffsuad** · 11-01-2011, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Densha

Hello, I'm not sure JJS smashes harder with MX 80 than SW 37 I would've said the contrary. Seems like the racket he picks depends on the players has to face.
I've seen him using both SW37 and MX80 during the french open.
I think he picks MX 80 when he needs more speed and fast attacking play like he has to against FHF/CY.
They usually win when they take the initiative and attack even though they have a huge defense.
JJS has played pretty well during the finals

very good in both defense and attack and also at the net =)

so sw37 more powerful but lacking at defend...is this what you mean...

**j4ckie** · 11-01-2011, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Densha

Hello, I'm not sure JJS smashes harder with MX 80 than SW 37 I would've said the contrary. Seems like the racket he picks depends on the players has to face.
I've seen him using both SW37 and MX80 during the french open.
I think he picks MX 80 when he needs more speed and fast attacking play like he has to against FHF/CY.
They usually win when they take the initiative and attack even though they have a huge defense.
JJS has played pretty well during the finals

very good in both defense and attack and also at the net =)

Well in the final of the Denmark Open he smashed at 284 and 287 with the MX - and less powerful with the SW37. Although he is probably the exception there, not many will get more power out of the MX80 than the SW37.

**Avenger242** · 11-01-2011, 10:45 AM

It's still f=maIt's the body kinetics limits one can achieve. It's about how heavy headed racquet u can hold without sacrificing the racquet swing speed. Since acceleration of the racquet plays a more important role here. It's take lesser energy to fire a bullet then fire a space shuttle to the sky. As for the shaft stiffness, players with slow swing are advice to go for flexible to create a catapult effect of the bending and unbending of the shaft. Can you imagine a player with fast swing and the shaft still in the bending position..where do u think the shuttle will go...It's all comes down to the player. I am sure you know yourself better than anyone. Trying different racket for yourself..just like trying different string tension that's suitable for you. Cheers

**Avenger242** · 11-01-2011, 10:48 AM

80% technique 10% racquet 10% string

**riffsuad** · 11-01-2011, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Avenger242

It's still f=maIt's the body kinetics limits one can achieve. It's about how heavy headed racquet u can hold without sacrificing the racquet swing speed. Since acceleration of the racquet plays a more important role here. It's take lesser energy to fire a bullet then fire a space shuttle to the sky. As for the shaft stiffness, players with slow swing are advice to go for flexible to create a catapult effect of the bending and unbending of the shaft. Can you imagine a player with fast swing and the shaft still in the bending position..where do u think the shuttle will go...It's all comes down to the player. I am sure you know yourself better than anyone. Trying different racket for yourself..just like trying different string tension that's suitable for you. Cheers

in some case, the flexi shaft is helping you to generate power but you need to master when and where to hit the shuttle. FHF is example who very good hit the shuttle at the right time and he know how to generate power from bending shaft with the super fast swing....

**Avenger242** · 11-01-2011, 11:50 AM

FHF and LYD is currently using medium flex racquets. Just think of a whip and maybe u will understand better. Energy is better conserve and focus footwork on the court. Considering he plays super series for >5days back to back. Non stop everyday...can you imagine? Do you want a stiff shoulder after just one game with extra stiff racquet. Doubles is a fast paced game. Probably that's why JJS switching racquets during the game.