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Thread: Victor Super Waves 37
04-14-2011, 12:44 AM #35
Another point: you as the user can't truly tell if the sw37 is putting out more or less power than the sw35.
The only one who can properly judge is the person on the receiving end of your smashes and clears.
04-14-2011, 12:47 AM #36
I'll try that on
FYI if you doubt my skill or ability to generate power from stiff and head heavy racket
here's my profile
i'm not too old to be too weak
and not too young to be lack of experience
i'm above 30 and under 40
been playing badminton for more then 20 years now
69 kg 175 cm (quite athletic build)
Last edited by jump-smash; 04-14-2011 at 12:51 AM.
04-14-2011, 12:53 AM #37
If you're not regularly overpowering the 37 shaft, then the 35 is too stiff for you. Not a put down or anything, just a fact.
Last edited by visor; 04-14-2011 at 12:56 AM.
04-14-2011, 01:06 AM #38
04-14-2011, 01:27 AM #39
Yea well Visor....I have 29 years less on you and even more weight! Beat that!
04-14-2011, 02:30 AM #40
- yes I agree partly on that but until I tried SW37 maybe I have to disagree.
- consider this: Fu Hai Feng use Ti-10 Gen 2 when he set the world record of the fastest smash.
- Tan Boon Heong use Ti-10 gen 3 ---> BP +/- 290 ~ 295 mm with medium stiff shaft.
- Koo Kien Kiat use AS8DX ---> BP +/- 290 ~ 295 mm.
- Lee Yong Dae use BS09 ---> BP +/- 290 ~ 295 mm with medium flex shaft.
- are you saying that Jung Jae Sung has a better smash than all the players above because JJS use SW35 ???
- sorry guys if I smashed your pre-assumption to pieces it's not easy to be a whistle blower but someone has to do it and I'm glad it's me
Last edited by jump-smash; 04-14-2011 at 02:33 AM.
04-14-2011, 02:41 AM #41
If I remember correctly, the world record for a smash is with the Yonex Arcsaber Z Slash. Which is stiff and head heavy. I don't know why you even brought up those other players. Lee Yong Dae uses the BS09 yes, but he's the tactician in the doubles team. The smasher is Jung Jae Sung and he uses the SW35. Which sort of backs the notion that head heavy stiff rackets are more ideal for power or smashes. That's not to say he has a better smash BECAUSE of the SW35, but that because he's a power player he's more suited to the SW35, which promotes power play.
There's less of a draw for doubles players to use such power rackets though, as you usually sacrifice some speed. These days singles players tend to favour head heavy stiff rackets.
Last edited by Naim.F.C; 04-14-2011 at 02:44 AM.
04-14-2011, 02:49 AM #42
Does F = MA still, or is there some new special Physics that only applies to badminton?
I've seen it time and time again - it's racket speed that makes the most difference to the speed of the smash, not mass. The mass in the racket head, between a heavy head and a light head would be lucky to be 5 grams - nigh on insignificant.
All of this is academic of course, because you can generate as much racket speed as you like, but if you don't have fitness, timing, placement and tactics, you're not going to win.
It's all about finding a nice balance that fits in with your style of play and your physiology.
04-14-2011, 02:51 AM #43
04-14-2011, 02:52 AM #44
Actually out of all those, JJS and FHF have the most consistently meatiest smashes. Likely sw35 helps. What does FHF use now? N50 iirc. But have you seen the size of their forearms?
When you test out our hypothesis, make sure you ask your opponent/ partner to rate the power of your smashes.
04-14-2011, 02:59 AM #45
Both mass and speed are important!
If you've ever tried using a 4U headlight racket with tons of speed but less mass, you'll find that your smashes don't penetrate as well. Likewise using a head heavy 2U, lots of mass but not much speed.
Oh, and don't discount a measly 5g wt differential: it may not seem a lot, but that's how much a shuttle weighs!
Last edited by visor; 04-14-2011 at 03:01 AM.
04-14-2011, 03:00 AM #46
All I can say is that from personal experience, head heavier, stiffer rackets have certainly generated more power for me personally. And that's not something I concocted in my head. Something noted by my opponents as well. If it was just about speed, my BS10 would offer more power than my MX80, but as it happens it's the other way around.
But as mentioned, it's all personal to the player. Not everyone is going to get more power out of a stiffer or head heavier racket.
04-14-2011, 03:04 AM #47
guys mass and speed are both important
FYI my SW35 total weight is 94.9 grams while my SW37 is 96.2 grams
04-14-2011, 03:27 AM #48
04-14-2011, 03:36 AM #49
04-14-2011, 03:37 AM #50
04-14-2011, 03:41 AM #51
290mm bp is even balance and pretty much all short-handled Yonex's are less stiff than rated because of their longer shaft (like a Z-Slash and AT700) with possibly an exception for the Ti-10 post-I generations which are more like 285-290 bp and stiff-extra stiff; but perhaps they are rated stiff and extra stiff respectively and in practice a little less indeed).
Last edited by demolidor; 04-14-2011 at 03:54 AM.
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