Victor Super Waves 37

**visor** · 04-14-2011, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Maklike Tier

I never said mass wasn't important, I said the differential in SPEED is more broad and therefore it's MORE of a factor.

Ah but you don't realize both are just as important.

Or have you conveniently overlooked my original post above re 4U head light rackets? You can generate lots of speed with them, but the smashes won't be as fast because there is less mass.

Btw if F=ma as you state, then how is a difference in speed a greater effect than a proportional difference in mass. It is a directly linear relationship.

**jump-smash** · 04-14-2011, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Naim.F.C

Yonex has it rated at stiff with a BP of 290mm. I fail to see how that is even balanced and medium stiff.

All I can say is that from personal experience, head heavier, stiffer rackets have certainly generated more power for me personally. And that's not something I concocted in my head. Something noted by my opponents as well. If it was just about speed, my BS10 would offer more power than my MX80, but as it happens it's the other way around.

But as mentioned, it's all personal to the player. Not everyone is going to get more power out of a stiffer or head heavier racket.

it's not just about speed nor it is just about the mass
it's either both ! it's accelerate enough mass to the highest speed

**visor** · 04-14-2011, 02:52 AM

Aargh!
Why does understanding badminton equipment have to be so complex?
I'm sure the racket manufacturers/companies are having a jolly good time every year coming out with the newest improved rackets for us to buy!

**demolidor** · 04-14-2011, 02:57 AM

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**jump-smash** · 04-14-2011, 03:00 AM

i'm having a good time here this badminton talk is quite entertaining and amusing and it last longer than the actual match on court and it's very much less tiring hahaha LOL

**visor** · 04-14-2011, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by demolidor

(yay: another thread derailed

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Very good one! :thumbsup

So this equation is more appropriate than F=ma.
Thus speed has a greater effect on kinetic energy than mass.

**jump-smash** · 04-14-2011, 03:11 AM

so what that tells you ?
head heavy = bigger mass
conclusion : head heavy racket does not always provide greater power or higher shuttle speed
now it's only stiffness left to study

**visor** · 04-14-2011, 03:15 AM

well, reality is not so straightforward

4u headlight rackets have great speed, but horribly slow smashes

**demolidor** · 04-14-2011, 03:21 AM

Which probably means (most) humans can't swing it fast enough

(or don't because it swings so easy already)

***kwun*** · 04-14-2011, 03:27 AM

guys. have you guys missed the most important part of the F=ma equation?

it is not m, it is not a.

it is F. F means how much force YOU have.

when you have large F, then 1/2 mv^2 will be maximized.

*now back to regular scheduled programming....*

**visor** · 04-14-2011, 03:28 AM

dang!

this means that i'll have to go and buy a whole bunch of rackets with various combinations of head heavy vs balanced, stiff vs. medium, power vs speed cross section!

only then will i know what will work best for me!

this is going to be an expensive hobby!

**Maklike Tier** · 04-14-2011, 03:54 AM

lolz. Yeah, buying new rackets to try is such a burden!

**gendruw** · 04-14-2011, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by jump-smash

good suggestion !
I'll try that on
SW37
SW35
MX80

FYI if you doubt my skill or ability to generate power from stiff and head heavy racket
here's my profile
i'm not too old to be too weak
and not too young to be lack of experience
i'm above 30 and under 40
been playing badminton for more then 20 years now
69 kg 175 cm (quite athletic build)

i'll be happy to be the guinea pig

btw, this guy is a regular in our courts and one of those with powerful smashes.

**jump-smash** · 04-14-2011, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by gendruw

i'll be happy to be the guinea pig

btw, this guy is a regular in our courts and one of those with powerful smashes.

wow thanks very much man
are you sure you're in the right position?
I'll be happy to swap with you since you're also a big smasher
I'll lend the rackets (SW37, SW35, MX80) and let you do the smash while I defend using my BS10

**jump-smash** · 04-14-2011, 08:25 AM

@gendruw is an example of a big bomber with a medium stiff and even balanced rackets
he uses Carlton Power Blade 9902

**Licin** · 04-14-2011, 08:55 AM

@jump-smash
based on your body measure, for me you are quite similar to Lin dan,

, no joke.

@jump-smash & gendruw
A friend of mine is playing together with your group in Jakarta, been hearing a lot about you guys high level of play.
If possible, i wanna join you guys group, whenever i visit Jakarta for learning purposes, i am still newbie here....

**jump-smash** · 04-14-2011, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Licin

@jump-smash
based on your body measure, for me you are quite similar to Lin dan,

, no joke.

@jump-smash & gendruw
A friend of mine is playing together with your group in Jakarta, been hearing a lot about you guys high level of play.
If possible, i wanna join you guys group, whenever i visit Jakarta for learning purposes, i am still newbie here....

who is your friend???
which one??? there are 30 ~ 40 people in our group (gendruw is the Leader)
and we use 4 courts
it's difficult to know everyone there because we are busy playing
so no time to talk with each other