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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    Both appear to be not nice but we should see it from the basics.

    Gesture of apology for lucky shots is a recognized badminton game manner (u could call it hypocrisy, like it or not). As a world class player "known for good manner", it's normal people would expect him to do so as all top players do, otherwise would by seen as anti-social...

    LD was having flu during KO (according to commentators during KO broadcasting, I cannot prove anyway ). If this is true, he must be suffering blocking noses during the matches. The umpire did not allow him to stop so frequently to wipe nicely during the competition. What should he do? Having nose blocking to loss if not death? Or WO? (therefore I agree what you said, it might be LD's germs caused LCW the match, LCW should consider to appeal on this basis... )

    I m sure his sponsors would also don't like see his nose-blowing in front of the camera, neither did LD himself as this would be undesirable to his commercial advertising image! LD must be losing money therefore...


    Yes, Lin Dan had a cold and he was damn smart about it

    I don't think the umpire would allow him too many time off for that

    As a matter of fact the umpire didn't mind either,

    those sticky yellowish slimery leftover by Lin Dan on the floor

    What about some of his fans? I don't hear complain so I suppose they love it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonc108 View Post
    Many people notice such interesting "unique" behavior of LCW amongst the top players but not dare to point it out here in BC... coz u know... hehehe... It's Boleh-Central here... . hehe...
    Quote Originally Posted by eaglehelang View Post
    Hahaha, no such thing as dont dare, you all constantly critise & nitpick at LCW, from the food poisoning case to TC, to press intv, etc. More so than the so called boleh fans, but if we comment little wee bit abt LD/China players, wow, jump with intensity like from high mountain, lol. Even certain well informed INA fans are not spared.
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    So surprised that BadmintonCentral is now known as BolehCentral.

    Is this criticising BadmintonCentral or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris-ccc View Post
    So surprised that BadmintonCentral is now known as BolehCentral.

    Is this criticising BadmintonCentral or what?
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    I believed this thread will be closed soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsae75 View Post
    lin dan has basically shut lcw and taufik up once and for all for bad-mouthing him when he withdrew from the malaysian open last week even though the malaysian doctor had certified lin dan to be unfit for his quarter-final match with chen long. both of them wanted the badminton world federation (bwf) to investigate into the validity of lin dan's withdrawal and penalize him - how unprofessional and unbecoming of them!

    between the 2 players, i think lin dan has got more grace and class than lcw. i always hate to see lcw going up to his opponent to shake their hands after he had won the game and trying to show some empathy - how hypocritical! this time when lin dan won, he simply shied away almost immediately without any grace and class - i guess he was in a state of shock and disbelief with himself and can't muster enough courage to congratulate lin dan properly after the game.

    i strongly believe lcw really thought he can beat lin dan this time and was even cocky during some exchanges in the match but time and time again, lin dan has proven that lcw is still second best to him in the world. with this victory, even the most ardent lcw fan or lin dan hater would have to admit that lin dan is simply the greatest player ever to walk this earth.
    Kindly refer to 3rd game 11 pts interval... LCW asked for a change of shuttle but LD refused, and right before LD serves, LD apologized. Isn't this more hypocritical? and btw LD changed shuttle after that point. Also, there is reason why LCW won't apologize to LD every time he got a lucky shot, because he is quite fed up with LD hypocritical behavior. LCW did apologize to other players when he got lucky. He is not cocky.

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    Arrow Both LD and LCW are not cocky

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh View Post
    Kindly refer to 3rd game 11 pts interval... LCW asked for a change of shuttle but LD refused, and right before LD serves, LD apologized. Isn't this more hypocritical? and btw LD changed shuttle after that point. Also, there is reason why LCW won't apologize to LD every time he got a lucky shot, because he is quite fed up with LD hypocritical behavior. LCW did apologize to other players when he got lucky. He is not cocky.
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    IMHO, both LD and LCW are not cocky. Only opposite fans of their idols are bashing each other here, at BadmintonCentral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsae75 View Post
    and seem to be obsessed in trying to establish his legacy as world no. 1 but unfortunately, or fortunately. the annal of badminton history will always coin him as a 2nd fiddle to lin dan!
    In the star 6th feb "I won the 100th edition of the All-England last year and it is ....."(LCW). the '100th'.(the mother of all All-Englands).

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    LCW has now changed his court behavior when playing against LD. He is trying to use more mind games to rattle and antagonize LD, as shown in the Asian Games and the Korean SS. This even extends outside the court as shown by the unfriendly comments from LCW, with some support from his good friend TH, about LD missing the Malaysian SS. This is perfectly acceptable. However, it is unfortunate it does not work against LD.
    Perhaps, LCW may want to do something more unpredictable to give him an edge over LD. MS is a past master in this and he may want to come up with something that will really rattle LD the next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    LCW has now changed his court behavior when playing against LD. He is trying to use more mind games to rattle and antagonize LD, as shown in the Asian Games and the Korean SS. This even extends outside the court as shown by the unfriendly comments from LCW, with some support from his good friend TH, about LD missing the Malaysian SS. This is perfectly acceptable. However, it is unfortunate it does not work against LD.
    Perhaps, LCW may want to do something more unpredictable to give him an edge over LD. MS is a past master in this and he may want to come up with something that will really rattle LD the next time.
    In this case, Li Mao is the best so far. I think LM alone can rattle both LD+LYB anytime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    LCW has now changed his court behavior when playing against LD. He is trying to use more mind games to rattle and antagonize LD, as shown in the Asian Games and the Korean SS. This even extends outside the court as shown by the unfriendly comments from LCW, with some support from his good friend TH, about LD missing the Malaysian SS. This is perfectly acceptable. However, it is unfortunate it does not work against LD.
    Perhaps, LCW may want to do something more unpredictable to give him an edge over LD. MS is a past master in this and he may want to come up with something that will really rattle LD the next time.
    Or could it be TH and LCW simply speak their minds out about the fact that LD w/o in certain tournaments and did not cunningly twist their words. It goes the same on LCW so called unfriendly comments. It could be you (us BCers) that read too much on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flite View Post
    Or could it be TH and LCW simply speak their minds out about the fact that LD w/o in certain tournaments and did not cunningly twist their words. It goes the same on LCW so called unfriendly comments. It could be you (us BCers) that read too much on it.
    There are other players in the circuit who did not voice the LCW/TH 'orchestrated' comments about LD. Apparently, the fact that it was a Malaysian doctor who examined LD did not prevent comments from LCW/TH. Maybe, they jumped the gun with their comments before bothering to find out who gave LD the clearance to not play based on medical grounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    There are other players in the circuit who did not voice the LCW/TH 'orchestrated' comments about LD. Apparently, the fact that it was a Malaysian doctor who examined LD did not prevent comments from LCW/TH. Maybe, they jumped the gun with their comments before bothering to find out who gave LD the clearance to not play based on medical grounds.
    it was so obvious dat super dan was having a flu.
    a few times u can see him blowing his nose.
    and juz bcos he is super dan doesn't mean he is superman.
    sometimes he succumb to sickness and injuries too.

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    It is one thing to employ 'mind' games during a match, which is part of the overall game plan of a game and therefore acceptable, but it is not nice to do it outside the court. Using the press to express their comments and then having the cheek to suggest to the BWF to investigate LD's withdrawal is hitting below the belt. It is tasteless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    It is one thing to employ 'mind' games during a match, which is part of the overall game plan of a game and therefore acceptable, but it is not nice to do it outside the court. Using the press to express their comments and then having the cheek to suggest to the BWF to investigate LD's withdrawal is hitting below the belt. It is tasteless.
    on the same note, how many times you've seen LCW gave the aggressive/dirty looks after a netcord or a hard fought long rally? many many times as i remember, obviously tried to boost himself and intimidating his opponents at the same time. that obviuosly didnt work, LD seen through them as in one of his interviews on the other thread. i think that actually backfired as that signalling to the other guy that you're nervous/scare.

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    You know , taneepak is true , LCW changed after the 2008 OG . He was blown away by LD , and I can say it was a traumatizing event for him . On that day , all LD wanted was to win , after each point he shouts, to intimidate LCW . Even when he plays a net cord or hit's on LCW body , he doesn't apologize .

    What do you think you'll do when you get rattled so many times : After the 0G , AE '09 , TC '10 . He is mentally intimidated when it comes to LD , you know .

    Therefore , in one interview I saw , MS already asked LCW to change his style , to not respect your opponent . MS says LCW respected his opponents too much that lead to his downfall.

    Alas , you can see how LCW reacts everytime he wins a long rally or drives the shuttle to LD's body .

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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    There are other players in the circuit who did not voice the LCW/TH 'orchestrated' comments about LD. Apparently, the fact that it was a Malaysian doctor who examined LD did not prevent comments from LCW/TH. Maybe, they jumped the gun with their comments before bothering to find out who gave LD the clearance to not play based on medical grounds.
    The plot thickens. Now its assumed that 2 great players orchestrated their comments on LD! Why not on PG? Its because PG is well known for his sportsmanship.

    Quote Originally Posted by miss.boon View Post
    it was so obvious dat super dan was having a flu.
    a few times u can see him blowing his nose.
    and juz bcos he is super dan doesn't mean he is superman.
    sometimes he succumb to sickness and injuries too.
    You are right on this. In fact he blew his nose countless times at all tourney.

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    Arrow MS says LCW respected his opponents too much that lead to his downfall

    Quote Originally Posted by maximR View Post
    You know, taneepak is true, LCW changed after the 2008 OG. He was blown away by LD, and I can say it was a traumatizing event for him. On that day, all LD wanted was to win, after each point he shouts, to intimidate LCW. Even when he plays a net cord or hit's on LCW body, he doesn't apologize.

    What do you think you'll do when you get rattled so many times: After the 0G, AE '09, TC '10. He is mentally intimidated when it comes to LD, you know.

    Therefore, in one interview I saw, MS already asked LCW to change his style, to not respect your opponent. MS says LCW respected his opponents too much that lead to his downfall.

    Alas, you can see how LCW reacts everytime he wins a long rally or drives the shuttle to LD's body.
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    MS says LCW respected his opponents too much that lead to his downfall. This I agree.

    During a match, it's fight, fight, fight. After the match, it should be peace, peace, peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss.boon View Post
    it was so obvious dat super dan was having a flu.
    a few times u can see him blowing his nose.
    and juz bcos he is super dan doesn't mean he is superman.
    sometimes he succumb to sickness and injuries too.
    Yeah, superdan was saying ," look, I can even take out the WR1 while fighting the flu as well". What a champion!

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