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    Quote Originally Posted by alanwong76 View Post
    a curious question.. maybe i too noob didn't knew it... since arcsaber z slash can make a speed of 421km/h smashing.. and voltric 80 got more power... why don't they use it to make another new smashing record ?
    VT80 doesn't have more power, it's just that the power from the Vt80 is more accessible, than from the z Slash, therefore you can produce a good smash more frequently.

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    After my lessons...played singles with my friend.

    Was really tired from my lessons so it took some time to get back my second-wind. I definitely prefer the smaller grip (G5) on my VT80. I was correct that I was able to do some deceptive shots better. Also I can use finger-strength shots better. But I was tired and so the results were 2-2. At the end, my calf muscle started to cramp...so ended the night slightly early (ie. 5min). My forearm muscle started to get sore too. Not used to 2hrs of training/playing. But it will get better as I adapt to the regiment of training/playing for 2 hrs. Also need to start my P90X exercises.

    Played with RSL Classic Tourneys straight out of the tube. WOW...fell in love after the first couple of hits. So smooth. It is equivalent to AS40 in terms of flight and durability. Maybe AS50 on a good day. The shuttles lasted 1.5-2games. So will keep playing with it some more...but it's good so far.

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    I'm surprise you like the RSL Classic Tourneys so much... They were alright when we first started but they are not as durable as the Victor Championship 1.

    I've given up on my VT80... Gosen Ryoga Shiden is the way to go! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by WoOZY View Post
    I'm surprise you like the RSL Classic Tourneys so much... They were alright when we first started but they are not as durable as the Victor Championship 1.

    I've given up on my VT80... Gosen Ryoga Shiden is the way to go! :P
    Haven't tried Victor Championship 1 yet so I can't comment on that.

    I was surprised as well since hearing that the RSL Classic Tourney quality had fallen. But it kept up to AS40 (from what I experienced) and is cheaper too.

    So far from all the shuttles I tested in ranked order of performance then price...
    Yonex AS50
    RSL Classic Tourney
    Yonex AS40
    Yonex AS30
    Victor Tournment

    Blasphemy!!! VT80 is my go to racket. I was thinking of buying all sorts of brands to find the ONE but $$ is drying up since I started taking private lessons. So I'm going to stick with what I know and am used to. VT80 3UG5 for me.

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    Yea... I am trying other birdies at a lower cost...

    My list is like this for the ones I've tested:
    Victor Championship 1
    RSL Classic Tourney
    Victor Blue

    The ones I'm gonna try:
    Yang Yang 99A - Feathers are very thin but surprisingly good. Definitely practice birdies for drills.
    Yang Yang Premier 1
    Black Knight 6700 - Fairly consistent. Lasted 2 full games. Game ready and will order more if on special.
    Wilson Topline 80

    I'm debating if I want to sell my VT80 3UG5 and getting another Shiden... But I don't know if I should give up on head heavy rackets completely... Maybe I'll just sell the SW35 and top up a bit to get another Shiden :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koyori View Post
    Nice. Is it jp version one?
    Yes! Only the JP version with "Yonex Open Japan 2011" logo.

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    I've been using the Yonex Voltric 80 for a few months now(4u-g5). It came out 6 months ago in Korea I guess. I think its a good racket for power and has a nice touch to shots, but it has some limitations on defense, especially when playing a good smashing team. The racket speed for defending from a smash takes a bit of getting used to on count of a heavier head, and although I would recommend it for a player that has a lot of power in the lower arms, I wouldn't use this if you are a speed player. In doubles, I would say try this racket before you buy it, as you WILL need to adapt for defense speed.
    I usually use a Gosen 5100, or Arc Saber 10, and now this racket. I use this racket for when I play defensive teams, but when I play strong, offensive, smashing minded teams I usually opt for a lighter racket so that I can have a better reaction time to smashes.
    It think it would be a good singles racket, for sure.
    Again, this is only what I've had occur with this racket, it might be totally different for you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanucksDynasty View Post
    After my lessons...played singles with my friend.Was really tired from my lessons so it took some time to get back my second-wind. I definitely prefer the smaller grip (G5) on my VT80. I was correct that I was able to do some deceptive shots better. Also I can use finger-strength shots better. But I was tired and so the results were 2-2. At the end, my calf muscle started to cramp...so ended the night slightly early (ie. 5min). My forearm muscle started to get sore too. Not used to 2hrs of training/playing. But it will get better as I adapt to the regiment of training/playing for 2 hrs. Also need to start my P90X exercises.Played with RSL Classic Tourneys straight out of the tube. WOW...fell in love after the first couple of hits. So smooth. It is equivalent to AS40 in terms of flight and durability. Maybe AS50 on a good day. The shuttles lasted 1.5-2games. So will keep playing with it some more...but it's good so far.
    Glad the G5 is working out for you! I've briefly warmed up with my G4 and it feels way more stable in my hands. I did feel that I lost some maneuverability for trick shots, but I've never been that great at them and typically fallback on pure power. G4 stabilizes my smashes so it's awesome in my books!
    Quote Originally Posted by CanucksDynasty View Post
    Haven't tried Victor Championship 1 yet so I can't comment on that. I was surprised as well since hearing that the RSL Classic Tourney quality had fallen. But it kept up to AS40 (from what I experienced) and is cheaper too.So far from all the shuttles I tested in ranked order of performance then price...Yonex AS50RSL Classic TourneyYonex AS40Yonex AS30Victor TournmentBlasphemy!!! VT80 is my go to racket. I was thinking of buying all sorts of brands to find the ONE but $$ is drying up since I started taking private lessons. So I'm going to stick with what I know and am used to. VT80 3UG5 for me.
    Not sure if you've tried Aeroplane Black label, but you should if you haven't. Makes all other brands pale in comparison in terms of feel, trajectory, speed, and durability. Get the 3/50/77 speed to match the air humidity in north America http://www.mybadmintonstore.com/shop...roducts_id=920

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optiblue View Post
    ....snip....
    Not sure if you've tried Aeroplane Black label, but you should if you haven't. Makes all other brands pale in comparison in terms of feel, trajectory, speed, and durability. Get the 3/50/77 speed to match the air humidity in north America http://www.mybadmintonstore.com/shop...roducts_id=920
    Here's a likely better deal for Aeroplanes and other badminton stuff:
    http://www.canuckbadminton.com/store...&cPath=240_248

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    Hmmm is shipping free? Their prices for birds is alright, string prices are sky high!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optiblue View Post
    Hmmm is shipping free? Their prices for birds is alright, string prices are sky high!
    You'll just have to browse. This gives you another option though. I haven't shopped there yet, but many people swear by the place, or so I've heard. Maybe you can drop them a line asking about shipping...

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    Yeah I added some items to cart, seems like you have to order 4 before it's around even with MBS, 5 or more as long as shipping stays constant at $10, then you start getting savings. I'll give them a try when I need to order Only aeroplane birds is a good deal though. Just about everything else is priced higher than what can be purchased in stores locally.

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    Played singles again. 3-1 in my favour. G5 grip size is working for me so far. But fell out of love with RSL Classic Tourney. The shuttles barely last a game this time around. Went through 4 shuttles tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanucksDynasty View Post
    . But fell out of love with RSL Classic Tourney. .
    Finally .. i love the RSL shuttle especially it feel during contact with racket.. but the feather not durable for a hard hitter match..

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    Quote Originally Posted by awekuda View Post
    hope u got strong wrist to tame the beast ..
    lol its all in the fingers

    Since my last post, I've managed to finish reading up till page 112 and managed to have a couple of games with it. For the record, I play at an upper intermediate level. String tension - 25lbs (strong on an ES 5 pro - according to the stringer, its suppose to be equivalent to something higher compared to manual stringing - I'll have to check up the forum for that, but I just treat it as 25). String - BG80.

    Initial thoughts
    Getting the VT80(3U5G) was like coming home. To provide context, my experience with head heavy rackets starts and ends with a Ti-10 1st gen 3U5G - which was the racket that I learnt to play badminton with. Right before this VT80, I've been using an MP99. I've adapted alot of my shots to a the Ti-10 so the VT80 feels very familiar, but certain areas where the Ti-10 use to feel slightly sluggish the VT80 is much faster and more efficient.

    Grip
    I've been playing with the original grip at the moment - I dont have a problem playing with it until it starts to get abit oily - not sure why -, then I strip it off and will be using a Karakal PU on wood.

    Smashing
    I am struggling with bicep tendinitis at the moment, so I havent managed to execute any all out full powered smashes. But so far the half smashes/normal smashes have been very satisfying. Good power transfer so half smashes can be made quite efficiently without expending too much energy or recovery time.

    As stated by alot of reviews prior to this, the head moves in a forward motion very quickly - and from the MP99 this is an improvement - so getting a relatively sharp angle for your straightforward smashes is not too difficult.

    Apart from moving quickly in a forward motion, the VT80 feels very nimble so it allows me the option of tilting/rotating the head for a sharper angle without compromising on the power too much. My comparison here is against a Ti-10 which while having a heavy head allowed for the power to keep coming, seemed to lose abit of power. So these half smash/chops became abit slow [Before I get into trouble - I am not saying that it cant be done with power, its just that I've not mastered it, and it is my personal opinion that the shot is just much simpler with a VT80].

    Clears
    Erm, forehand, backhand no problems to the back of the court. Just position, wind up, bang - very efficient power transfer. Especially for backhand clears - even mistimed clears go pretty far lol. The deep forehand clear *when the ball has gone behind into the corner, yeah those* become easier. Since this shot really requires the right position it's easier than the Ti-10 cos of its more nimble, and compared to the MP99, which I feel is easy to get into position - allows me to just cannon shots back to the other end. Very happy with this aspect of it. [Again, the same caveat applies - not impossible with MP99, just my personal opinion that its quite easy to do with the VT80].

    Drops
    This'll have to wait for another time cos to make a good comparison it'll really require me to change my grip.

    Defence
    I didnt find much problem here. Seems like I am not in a position to comment because the debate on this part of the racket's performance seems to be between the 3U and 4U versions. I've only got the 3U version. Personally, I feel that I just have to make contact at the right angle, and the 3U is nimble enough for me to do that. After that its just a matter of whether I wanna 'let it rip' (for a high clear) - which seems to be the default mode on this racket - or place it. Again, compared to the Ti-10, I am able to adjust it much better. The MP99 for me seemed to have a default mode to place the shuttle and I had to expend alot more energy to drive it back up.

    Drives
    Erm, with this racket drives feel very fun. Dont have to put that much effort and since the point here is to 'let it rip' (see above), this racket performs this function very well.

    At the net
    This is more of a general comment than one of the VT80 in particular. As stated above, I trained with a Ti-10. When I switched to other rackets, which I have been using for the last 2-3 years, I find it a struggle to adjust my netshots. So my performance varies from game to game. But upon picking up the VT80, very little adjustment needed - net shots were back up to standard - and I was able to weigh them up nicely. I suppose muscle memory just kicked in? For review purposes, I could 'feel' the shuttle alot more than I could on my MP99.

    So somuch for my initial thoughts. At the moment, I'm in the right mind to walk right back to the shop and pick up another one Will post up more after I get more game time with it (or more VT80s )
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    I'm going to give my thoughts on a 4U Yonex VT80 (Japan). I bought it used from a member here (tinshuttle).

    I'm no pro player though I'm not a beginner anymore and haven't played for years. The raquet I had was a Carlton Powerblade Superlite (bought around 2005), even balanced, dunno the tension after 6 years. The vt80 is obviously head heavy, it came strung with bg66 ultramax @ 25lbs and the grip was replaced by PU supergrip.

    From the moment I picked I liked it, there's just a certain feel when you move it like you can feel it more. Since it's the 4U, it feels really light in the hands. 25lb tension seems to be fine for me, there's a crisp sound when i hit the shuttlecock. I also feel hitting it more, dunno if that'd due to strings/tension/raquet but feedback is good. I find it easier to generate power, I didn't have to hit it as hard to make it go further/faster for clears/smashes. A few times I surprised myself by getting a better angle than I thought I would from it. I didn't find anything amiss in defense, it's just feels really light.

    Anyway, i really love it and there was no adaptation whatsoever, it just felt natural from when i picked it up.

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    Hey Guys I need some help on buying a racket...
    I am an intimmidiate player, i am quiet big and love to smash, but because i am big i dont have fast arm swing speed like others but i have strong smash, I would like to get voltric 80 but after a chat to MBS person, he siad that vt80 hard to use, becuase it is stiff? is that right? Also Any other racket good for me?
    Thanks for the help =P

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