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    Paul, thanks for your review. Your opinion is valued at BC. And your integrity.

    To your mind, is the VT80 a good choice for an intermediate (at best) player? How exactly would you stack this up against say, the Arc8DX which you were quite effusive about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobalt View Post
    To your mind, is the VT80 a good choice for an intermediate (at best) player?
    This would interest me as well.

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    VT80 is very different to Arc 8DX. I do still like 8DX and it's still my current racquet. I had to give the VT80 back sad to say.

    I hope I'll be using the VT80 next year but that's if Yonex agree to continue my sponsorship and agree to provide me with the racquets.

    VT80 is much heavier in the head. The shaft is longer and therefore plays different to 8DX. The aero dynamic qualities of VT80 mean it moves quickly although you're more aware of the head and where it's going. 8DX is lighter and just as quick but there isn't the same awareness of the head.

    With regard to power, I never hit as smash as hard with 8DX as I did with VT80. Bear in mind I don't play, only coach so my technique isn't as refined as it should be.

    Both are very good racquets. For me, VT80 is worth the extra money, because it gave me a lot more meat overhead and defensively too. Bear in mind I've previously used AT900P and NS9900 so I have a lot to compare too. AT900 P was my initial favourite.

    You probably know the saying that you don't realise what you've been missing until you found it again. Well i was just the same playing with a lighter headed racquet. As soon as I hit with VT80 it made me realise how much I love heavy headed racquets.

    As I always say, my reviews do not mean the racquet will suit you. But I can only give an honest opinion. If I didn't think that much of VT80 then it would have been a different review. After all, i do not get paid to write.

    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    it is not. the VT80 is a slow swinging racket similar to the AT900Power. head heavy, good power, but not fast by any means.

    i am not saying it is not a good racket, but you better be a damn strong player to be able to wield it.
    Thanks for differentiating. How would you compare VT80 to SW35, BS10 and Meteor X80, if you have to just give them a number from 1 to 4? I guess you've tested them all, maybe not as many hours of court time as you'd like to give it for a much more in-depth evaluation, nevertheless you are able to generalize with your experience put into account. Cheers.

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    Would vt70 be a faster racket than vt80?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunterex196 View Post
    For those who have already tried out the VT80, can someone compare it to the AT700 for me? thanks a lot!!
    hai there..i recently bought vt80 3u g5 ..i also have AT700 , AT900,NS9900,ARC8DX,VT70 and ZSlash..my opinion is VT80 is better for me then the rest..may be i get used to AT900 so VT80 just no problem..AT700 is too stiff for me..before i had VT80 ,i like to use ARC8dx ..in the first place i thought VT80 just like AT900 but then after a few stroke..for me its better..
    this is my opinion ..i dont know about other people.For me AT700 is for attacking player....its up to your strength and power...

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    I am more used towards head lighter racket so would vt70 be more head light than vt80?



    Quote Originally Posted by bunbun View Post
    hai there..i recently bought vt80 3u g5 ..i also have AT700 , AT900,NS9900,ARC8DX,VT70 and ZSlash..my opinion is VT80 is better for me then the rest..may be i get used to AT900 so VT80 just no problem..AT700 is too stiff for me..before i had VT80 ,i like to use ARC8dx ..in the first place i thought VT80 just like AT900 but then after a few stroke..for me its better..
    this is my opinion ..i dont know about other people.For me AT700 is for attacking player....its up to your strength and power...

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    BTW let me know if u want to let go your 8dx...

    Quote Originally Posted by bunbun View Post
    hai there..i recently bought vt80 3u g5 ..i also have AT700 , AT900,NS9900,ARC8DX,VT70 and ZSlash..my opinion is VT80 is better for me then the rest..may be i get used to AT900 so VT80 just no problem..AT700 is too stiff for me..before i had VT80 ,i like to use ARC8dx ..in the first place i thought VT80 just like AT900 but then after a few stroke..for me its better..
    this is my opinion ..i dont know about other people.For me AT700 is for attacking player....its up to your strength and power...

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    hey guys.. which one is better between VT70 vs. VT80 for intermediate player with medium strenght & skill??

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    any opinions on what string/tension to use on the voltric 80? I'm dying to get my hands on one after reading all the reviews haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Guys

    I have never hidden the fact that i am sponsored by Yonex. However, Yonex do not control my blog, nor do they control or attempt to control what i write.

    If I believe a racquet is good I'll say so. If I don't like a racquet I'll say so.

    My views on VT80 are exactly that, my personal views, weighing up what I've played with, how the racquet delivers in different aspects of the game. I have never written a review like this before speaking so boldly about a racquet. You'll note that I am known for speaking out against Arc Z Slash and it's timing issues. It didn't work for me and it hasn't for many players. Some have bought the racquet and then referred to my review and wished they hadn't.

    i have been fortunate to work with a retailer that invests in demo racquet. i do not get them direct from Yonex to review, i have to borrow them from my retailer. That's how I've been able to test Victor and yonex racquets. Soon I'll be testing Li Ning racquets and a few other brands and I'll be just as open and honest with my reviews of these brands.


    With regard to Maklike comments about my training schemes being P.T. Barnum I take offence at that statement. I have trained many players from being juniors to senior county players and one girl went on to represent England at senior level and reach a highest world ranking of 22.

    The players that come on my residential weekends will tell you what a good training weekend it is and I'm very proud of our achievements to date. My courses are certainly not weak, lacking in content or teaching the wrong things. They're also not a load of BS. I'll stack my coaching against most coaches and the fact that I design training tools that work should be seen as a plus.

    Seems to me that someone needs to think very carefully before engaging fingers on keyboard!

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    I do like of using ns9900 due to the maneuver of the racket. However, i would like to improve my smashing power. Is VT80 can give the maneuver almost same with ns9900 can will improve my smashing power?

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    Is your AT700 New generation or Old generation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by txv611 View Post
    I am more used towards head lighter racket so would vt70 be more head light than vt80?
    i would think so. the VT70 had a faster swing and feel lighter then the VT80 even though both i had was 3U.
    imho the VT70 is more suitable for all player type

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilGauss View Post
    Hi, since you mentioned SW35, how would you rate the Voltric 80 from SW35? What is your string tension of your SW35 anyway? Thanks.
    After playing with the MX80 again today, i would think the SW35 (3U V850 27lbs) is a better performer then then MX80.
    maybe its because my technique is not good enough that why i cant seems to harness the strength of the MX80.

    imho i would think the VT80 is better then the SW35 in that it swing faster and hit harder. i do not really know how to explain this but the VT80 seems to be gaining speed as you swing therefore making seems more effortless to produce a stronger shot. this is something i didnt experience with the other head heavy rackets...

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulstewart64 View Post
    Cobalt

    VT80 is very different to Arc 8DX. I do still like 8DX and it's still my current racquet. I had to give the VT80 back sad to say.

    I hope I'll be using the VT80 next year but that's if Yonex agree to continue my sponsorship and agree to provide me with the racquets.

    VT80 is much heavier in the head. The shaft is longer and therefore plays different to 8DX. The aero dynamic qualities of VT80 mean it moves quickly although you're more aware of the head and where it's going. 8DX is lighter and just as quick but there isn't the same awareness of the head.

    With regard to power, I never hit as smash as hard with 8DX as I did with VT80. Bear in mind I don't play, only coach so my technique isn't as refined as it should be.

    Both are very good racquets. For me, VT80 is worth the extra money, because it gave me a lot more meat overhead and defensively too. Bear in mind I've previously used AT900P and NS9900 so I have a lot to compare too. AT900 P was my initial favourite.

    You probably know the saying that you don't realise what you've been missing until you found it again. Well i was just the same playing with a lighter headed racquet. As soon as I hit with VT80 it made me realise how much I love heavy headed racquets.

    As I always say, my reviews do not mean the racquet will suit you. But I can only give an honest opinion. If I didn't think that much of VT80 then it would have been a different review. After all, i do not get paid to write.

    Hope this helps

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    Thanks for your observations, Paul. But would this still be a better choice for an intermediate (at best) player? A guy like me does not have proper technique more than 50% of the time; arm strength tends to tail off after a couple of good games; but the spirit is willing!

    So would I be better off with a VT80 as compared to say, a VT70 or any weapon that is less stiff and more balanced? I guess I'm asking you for a price/performance judgement on the mid-scale of playing capability. Bear in mind that like any average player jostling for space on the court, I play doubles 85-90% of the time...

    I also noticed that Yonex had positioned the VT80 as a racquet for advanced/professional players...

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    agreed! VT80 3UG5 is for advanced player! if you want the feel to be just like medium standard...go for the 4UG5 spec..

    just like z-slash... swing fast but more forgiving. it feel like an upgraded z-slash! more suitable for aggressive player!

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    N90/N90II/N90II classics/N50/N50II/NS9900/AT900T/AT900P/VT80(4UG5)/Z-SLASH

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    OK guys, so many questions.

    VT80 is more powerful than Victor SW35 which is extremely stiff and head heavy. The extra shaft length does make a difference in terms of power transfer. Sadly we do not have Meteor or Legend in UK for me to test against. Hopefully I'll be testing Spira 22 soon to get an idea what that plays like.

    What I've found over the years is this. Every player is different and we all have a slightly different style and technqiue because we are all different shapes, sizes and muscle structure. This combination means we will always feel different about a racquet as the next player.

    In my experience whilst less experienced players continue to select lighter headed racquets, it could be that they should look at head heavy racquets instead. I believe the heavier head will help them find the control required and the overall feel on their technique.

    Cobalt it's so hard for me to comment on your personal circumstances. You may find Voltric helps your game considerably, but I can't say. You may find it's a waste of money.

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