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    Quote Originally Posted by danilo5753 View Post
    I going to buy a VT70 tonight , not sure how much its differ from VT80 ~ hmm...
    IMHO VT70, VT80, AT700, AT800 Off, AT900 Pow
    they are almost the same
    head heavy (BP 300 mm ++)
    and stiff ~ extra stiff shaft
    from what I've written on my note book
    AT900P BP 307 mm / stiff
    VT80 BP 305 mm / stiff
    VT70 BP 303 mm / medium stiff
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    Quote Originally Posted by jump-smash View Post
    IMHO VT70, VT80, AT700, AT800 Off, AT900 Pow
    they are almost the same
    head heavy (BP 300 mm ++)
    and stiff ~ extra stiff shaft
    from what I've written on my note book
    AT900P BP 307 mm / stiff
    VT80 BP 305 mm / stiff
    VT70 BP 303 mm / medium stiff
    Oh thanks~ I suppose both also about the same right ? I am using a medium stiff racquet now also..
    Hopefully this VT70 won't make me down Let me post some review once I've tried it out.

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    I'm used to 2U Carbonex rackets and it's obvious that's heavy for todays standards. A lot use 3U as standard. To point out how heavy this racket is, it feels more heavy as 4U compared to a VT70 at 3U. So if you don't like head heavy rackets, try a 4U. You'll see that it is not that hard to handle and it is a good balance between power and defense. I would rate the VT70 more suitable for doubles (like the AT900's) and the VT80 more a singles racket (AT700) where you have a little more time. So pick your racket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jump-smash View Post
    IMHO VT70, VT80, AT700, AT800 Off, AT900 Pow
    they are almost the same
    head heavy (BP 300 mm ++)
    and stiff ~ extra stiff shaft
    from what I've written on my note book
    AT900P BP 307 mm / stiff
    VT80 BP 305 mm / stiff
    VT70 BP 303 mm / medium stiff
    I beg to differ about VT70 and VT80.........while their BP is almost similar, VT80 feels a lot more head-heavy. i guess the dispersion of the weight is more towards the top of the frame and as a result, it feels more head-heavy.

    for VT70, it doesnt feel very head-heavy to me.......probably because of the slim frame, which make it feels faster than VT80.

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    Hai all,
    I not used to give a review about racket coz I’m not an advanced player. Just an average player who played 2 hour session twice a week. i follow this thread since it started. Here i just want to share my experience playing with VT80 4UG5 strung with BG66 Ultimax 24 lbs. Currently i owned ARMORTEC 70 MEGA G2 (aka my wining racket) and Apacs Feather Weight 200 (bought this racket coz want to improve my defence but it give me problem to clear and smash coz it too light). One would ask why i want to upgrade from AT70 which is for beginer/intermidiate to such a good racket and meant for advanced player (like kwun said that "Beginners really shouldn’t get anywhere near this racket as it is too demanding"). The reason is simply coz i got the money, it got good review from u guys and want to owned a racket that LCW used to win all england 2011 . Just played with it yesterday and i noticed that i feel really tired after 2 games and the racket feel heavy. Before i bought it, i measure the weight which is 83gram and compare with VT70 3U which is 88gram. My AT70 also 3U but it feels lighter. It feel like i got huge power in my hand but i cannot deliver it. Maybe because of the stiffness of the shaft. But my backhand is improving. Surprisingly some of my backhand clear is out at the back of the court.
    Maybe i should play more hours with this racket to get used to it. I think, it is a challenge for an average player like me to tame this beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by :renegade: View Post
    Hai all,
    I not used to give a review about racket coz I’m not an advanced player. Just an average player who played 2 hour session twice a week. i follow this thread since it started. Here i just want to share my experience playing with VT80 4UG5 strung with BG66 Ultimax 24 lbs. Currently i owned ARMORTEC 70 MEGA G2 (aka my wining racket) and Apacs Feather Weight 200 (bought this racket coz want to improve my defence but it give me problem to clear and smash coz it too light). One would ask why i want to upgrade from AT70 which is for beginer/intermidiate to such a good racket and meant for advanced player (like kwun said that "Beginners really shouldn’t get anywhere near this racket as it is too demanding"). The reason is simply coz i got the money, it got good review from u guys and want to owned a racket that LCW used to win all england 2011 . Just played with it yesterday and i noticed that i feel really tired after 2 games and the racket feel heavy. Before i bought it, i measure the weight which is 83gram and compare with VT70 3U which is 88gram. My AT70 also 3U but it feels lighter. It feel like i got huge power in my hand but i cannot deliver it. Maybe because of the stiffness of the shaft. But my backhand is improving. Surprisingly some of my backhand clear is out at the back of the court.
    Maybe i should play more hours with this racket to get used to it. I think, it is a challenge for an average player like me to tame this beast.
    yes u absolutely right...u must get used to it..VT80 a bit slow in defence but good in attacking n clear.did u try to slice the shuttle? if not i think u better try it..n i realize also VT80 need higher tension to make it alive..(just my thought)...(VT80 3UG5)

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    yeah I think head-heavy rackets are too demanding (Voltric and Armotec series)
    it is okay if you're 100% fit (this is very hard to maintain)
    and for playing 1st match or maybe 2nd matches after a break
    but after you feel a bit tired the extra heaviness will become a burden
    then the extra weight of a head-heavy racket will start to take it's toll
    and that's the price that I'm not willing to pay

    for me my ideal racket specs are
    BP 290 ~ 295 mm
    overall weight 94 ~ 95 grams
    shaft stiff ~ extra stiff
    string 0.68 mm (VS850)
    tension 28 lbs

    if I use thicker string like BG65 Power 0.70 mm
    then the tension should be 30 lbs
    and if I use thinner string 0.66 mm the ideal tension is 26 lbs
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    It depends, I play with an AT900T, (ok it is one of the least demanding AT's) but it really isn't getting more demanding when getting tired then right at the start, agree with you that an AT900P/AT700 will get you tired earlier.

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    yes totally agree with you
    but that's not the point
    what I mean is when you're tired
    1 or 2 grams of weight
    or 5 mm of Balance Point
    will make a lot of difference
    that is of course playing with someone at your level or maybe higher level
    you'll get tired faster and the racket feel a lot heavier in your hand

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    I fully agree with you on that.

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    I have a VT-70 3UG5 for a few months and tested the VT-80 4UG4 from a friend for about 10 min or less. Even thought the VT-80 was a lighter, it felt as head heavy as the heavier VT-70.

    Even though only sampling for a few min, I would recommend the VT-80 over the VT-70 for anyone at intermediate level and above. The racket is a lot easier to play with. Comparing to the VT-70, I felt that the VT-80 was easier to hit clears, drop, and smash. The racket gives good feed back, so shot replications/consistancy are easier to attain.

    I've order one already, so hopely my first impression of the racket is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_fanatic View Post
    I have a VT-70 3UG5 for a few months and tested the VT-80 4UG4 from a friend for about 10 min or less. Even thought the VT-80 was a lighter, it felt as head heavy as the heavier VT-70.

    Even though only sampling for a few min, I would recommend the VT-80 over the VT-70 for anyone at intermediate level and above. The racket is a lot easier to play with. Comparing to the VT-70, I felt that the VT-80 was easier to hit clears, drop, and smash. The racket gives good feed back, so shot replications/consistancy are easier to attain.

    I've order one already, so hopely my first impression of the racket is correct.
    I agree with u...highly recommended VT80...

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    Tested with my VT70 @ NBG98 25lbs - 2hours gameplay.

    Overhead stroke - Clear is very easy ~ I love to do high clear with this racket as its almost effortless, just swing it and I can feel the heavy head moving to hit the shuttles. Opponent surprise that the shuttle can fly sooo high and deep to their baseline when I last minutes hit the shuttle from back.

    Smash - My smash is not as steep as before, but its more powerful. Most of my smash with this racket is a long smash that hit almost the baseline or hit the person body. Can't adopt with this racket to make a steep smash yet, too bad...maybe I not enough time to pronate due to heavy head or maybe the string? Any suggestion to make it steeper?

    Drop - I only able to perform fast drop due to heavy head, slow drop its not get used yet due to the heavy weight dragging my wrist. Therefore, I try to make crosscourt fast drop and its quite effective. Should play more drop with this.

    Backhand - I can do a backhand from baseline to baseline easily, and few of it get out ! What can I complain about ?

    Net Play - Considerable OK thanks to the string helps. Able to make some trumbling shot.

    Defense - Lifting shuttles to back is easy, however...I feel its hard to defend against very fast smash that coming to my body or racket arm..feel not enough time to response..maybe its my reflex problem?

    Overall , Im in love with this racket for its powerful swing. This racket make me quite lazy to do dropshot, I would rather smash or clear instead of drop.


    ps: When I change back to my li-ning BP300B , I totally off-timing with the li-ning racket already haha.. So I decide to stick with this VT70 first.

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    Hi Guys,

    At the moment I play doubles with Arc 10 but someone is offering a very good price on VT70 & VT80 and I'm considering of buying either one of them but the question is which one?

    Does the V80 has extra stiff shaft than v70? if it does than I can't afford a repeat of another tennis elbow. I find extra stiff shaft rackets hurt my arm.

    Do you think V70 is better than Arc 10 in doubles? or do you think V70 & V80 are suitable for doubles and with same shaft? I need to know soon, as they guy going to get some orders.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad_fanatic View Post
    I have a VT-70 3UG5 for a few months and tested the VT-80 4UG4 from a friend for about 10 min or less. Even thought the VT-80 was a lighter, it felt as head heavy as the heavier VT-70.

    Even though only sampling for a few min, I would recommend the VT-80 over the VT-70 for anyone at intermediate level and above. The racket is a lot easier to play with. Comparing to the VT-70, I felt that the VT-80 was easier to hit clears, drop, and smash. The racket gives good feed back, so shot replications/consistancy are easier to attain.

    I've order one already, so hopely my first impression of the racket is correct.
    Let us know after 1+ hour of use

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    London player: vt70 has a medium shaft, whilst vt80 has a stiff shaft.

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    i thought the vt80 came only in 4u. with all this talk it kinda seems like the vt80 is better than the arcz, is that really true??? is there really that much of a difference in smashes between them??? what about everything else???

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