Who will be the MAS No.2 Mens Singles player in 2011?

**chris-ccc** · 02-11-2011, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by undeadshot

Maybe the topic should be changed to who will be MAS No.2 in BAM. That way, shortlisting a few players :

Blue = Tak Boleh
Red = Has potential to be one of the better MAS players
Just my opinion...

Tan Chun Seang (25 this year)
Chong Wei Feng (24 this year)
Liew Daren (24 this year)
Chan Kwong Beng (23 this year)
Mohd Arif Abdul Latif (22 this year)
Goh Soon Huat (21 this year)

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Hey, you didn't mention Zulfadli Zulkifli, who is turning 18 this year (2011).
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**undeadshot** · 02-11-2011, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

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Hey, you didn't mention Zulfadli Zulkifli, who is turning 18 this year (2011).
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Year 2011? Maybe not yet... I like Zulfadli, but I would prefer him to focus on becoming MAS first ever MS Asian or World Junior champion before undertaking heavier national duties.

I did think of him, chris. Thumbs up for him.

**jasonmarc** · 02-11-2011, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by undeadshot

Maybe the topic should be changed to who will be MAS No.2 in BAM. That way, shortlisting a few players :

Blue = Tak Boleh
Red = Has potential to be one of the better MAS players
Just my opinion...

Tan Chun Seang (25 this year)
Chong Wei Feng (24 this year)
Liew Daren (24 this year)
Chan Kwong Beng (23 this year)
Mohd Arif Abdul Latif (22 this year)
Goh Soon Huat (21 this year)

For me, I think......
Tan Chun Seang (25 this year)
Chong Wei Feng (24 this year)
Liew Daren (24 this year)
Chan Kwong Beng (23 this year)
Mohd Arif Abdul Latif (22 this year)
Goh Soon Huat (21 this year)......

Maybe has to add LWS......

**chris-ccc** · 02-12-2011, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by jasonmarc

For me, I think......
Tan Chun Seang (25 this year)
Chong Wei Feng (24 this year)
Liew Daren (24 this year)
Chan Kwong Beng (23 this year)
Mohd Arif Abdul Latif (22 this year)
Goh Soon Huat (21 this year)......

Maybe has to add LWS......

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OK then... Let us wish Loh Wei Sheng all the best too.

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**limsy** · 02-12-2011, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

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Thanks for the info link, Qidong.

WOW... For a 13 years old kid to defeat the No.1 U17 seed (Randy Ma) 21-9, 21-12 is such a BIG achievement (I have to agree).

Hope that some Malaysian BCers can give us more info about him.

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sound familiar to me
but i failed to recall
i believe i heard of him before

**eaglehelang** · 02-12-2011, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by Qidong

How about this 13 years old kid, Jun Wei Cheam, who came to LA last December beating up 17 years old kids all in single digits? A lot of people said he is the next LCW. I bet he should blossom in 3 to 4 years.

It's Cheam Jun Wei, saw his name in local tournaments. But in Malaysia, there's another 13 going on 14 yo kid who has better results, Indian guy

He reached BD semis of 2010 100 Plus junior National GP
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sp...0EA7&player=31

**chris-ccc** · 02-12-2011, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

It's Cheam Jun Wei, saw his name in local tournaments. But in Malaysia, there's another 13 going on 14 yo kid who has better results, Indian guy

He reached BD semis of 2010 100 Plus Junior National GP
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sp...0EA7&player=31

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So, he is Cheam Jun Wei. But who is the Indian guy?

We were just talking about Loh Wei Sheng earlier. At the 2010 Kedah Open (22-July), Loh Wei Sheng defeated Cheam Jun Wei quite easily; 21-12, 21-11 in just 20 minutes.
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**undeadshot** · 02-12-2011, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

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So, he is Cheam Jun Wei. But who is the Indian guy?

We were just talking about Loh Wei Sheng earlier. At the 2010 Kedah Open (22-July), Loh Wei Sheng defeated Cheam Jun Wei quite easily; 21-12, 21-11 in just 20 minutes.
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What do you expect, Cheam is 13/14 while Loh is already 19 this year

I don't think LWS is in contention to be MAS no.2 yet though... maybe a 2 or 3 more years..

**flite** · 02-13-2011, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

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OK then... Let us wish Loh Wei Sheng all the best too.

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My personal take would be LWS. He is (so far) Mas best bet for a replacement for LCW but its still a bit early to say that. He has the playing style that suits the 21 points system and most importantly the stamina (endurance) to last the pace. On top of that this guy did well academically, which means he has the ability to absorb knowledge faster than others = intelligence which many of our players lacks.

**Khai_AS10** · 02-13-2011, 12:58 AM

What about Dato Misbun protege?? His own sons??

**eaglehelang** · 02-13-2011, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by undeadshot

What do you expect, Cheam is 13/14 while Loh is already 19 this year

I don't think LWS is in contention to be MAS no.2 yet though... maybe a 2 or 3 more years..

Btw, how come Iskandar is not in your potential list? Personally I think Iskandar better than Arif

**eaglehelang** · 02-13-2011, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

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So, he is Cheam Jun Wei. But who is the Indian guy?

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Ohh, now I remember abt Cheam JW, he's the 2010 Penang Zone winner in BDU14. Could be senior Mr Teh's(LCW's 1st coach) student

LWS is AJC runner up leh, if he cannot beat a 13 y.o junior....speechless.

Hahaha, I just mention the Indian guy, he pulak lost to Cheam in 100 Plus BDU14 finals. R. Sathiesharan, Selangor player, trained under INA coach before joining BJSS.
So, for MS, in 4 or 5 years time, we'll see some glimpse of the next up & coming talents

**eRa@에라** · 02-13-2011, 03:09 AM

I think iskandar has performed well so far but I still feel doubtful for him especially if he got to play in the final day match... he might succumb to pressure which I hope he can improve on in the near future...

**undeadshot** · 02-13-2011, 03:20 AM

Originally Posted by eaglehelang

Btw, how come Iskandar is not in your potential list? Personally I think Iskandar better than Arif

He has like disappeared from the international stage, the only 2 or 3 times I remembered seeing his name last year he lost in the first or second round... MAS GP I remember he lost to Chan Yan Kit. Not sure about the other 2 times, maybe thats why he didn't leave much of an impression on me.

**flite** · 02-13-2011, 09:16 AM

Iskandar is another potential. Given proper guidance he will shine but where would it come from? The only hope in BAM right now would be under Hendrawan. As for Zulfadli, he has 1 very big problem = stamina. This was always discussed among his dad and those BJJS coaches during the Asian Juniors Championship. These 2 players together with LWS are the future flag bearers.

**chris-ccc** · 02-13-2011, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by flite

Iskandar is another potential. Given proper guidance he will shine but where would it come from? The only hope in BAM right now would be under Hendrawan. As for Zulfadli, he has 1 very big problem = stamina. This was always discussed among his dad and those BJJS coaches during the Asian Juniors Championship. These 2 players together with LWS are the future flag bearers.

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My knowledge was that Zulfadli Zulkifli was spending more time (over the last few years) in school/books, rather than in Badminton training.

Now that he has finished school, he should be able to have more time in training to build up his stamina.
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**flite** · 02-13-2011, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by chris-ccc

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My knowledge was that Zulfadli Zulkifli was spending more time (over the last few years) in school/books, rather than in Badminton training.

Now that he has finished school, he should be able to have more time in training to build up his stamina.
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Partly its true that given more time on training one would be able to improve his stamina. But my point here is ZZ stamina level itself was quite weak in high level competition. On the other hand, LWS did spent a lot of times on his studies too (he scored 7/8 As in PMR if I am not mistaken) and showed superior lasting power on the court that sent Thailand's top junior Pisit totally flat out after their 3 matches battle at last year's AJC.