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    Hi everyone,
    I watched a video of Peter Gade vs Chen Hong and when Peter Gade used a deceptive shot on Chen Hong the commentor said something about a double action. What does this double action mean?And how does it work?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiuJ63lbbmE
    the shot was done around 0:24 in the video.
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    I can't view the video from work, but from the looks of it - double action would also mean double motion. It is more or less where a player makes an initial racquet movement in one direction before withdrawing the racquet to hit in another direction. That is what makes the shots deceptive.

    I could be wrong in terms of what you were trying to ask :P

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    That makes sense I wonder how I could actually put that into game play -.-...

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    wow gade's footwork to get back and hit that smash AND drive off his left leg to retrieve CH's net shot is a thing of beauty

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    theres proper close up and slow mo of gade practising this shot (and others) on bestoncourt.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontmakeme View Post
    That makes sense I wonder how I could actually put that into game play -.-...
    start off my asking your coach or friend to throw shuttle over the net and you try to catch it with your racket, as high up near the white tape of the net as possible, like your racket following the shuttle coming down in the air and have the shuttle landed stably on the string bed. start off by standing by the net, then try standing at the T and leap a step to approach the net, practise that 100-200 times, until you can do it consistently.

    once you mastered that stroke, all deceptive / delayed action starts from there. when you're approaching the net, stick your racket out as usual, wait for the shuttle come over, like catching it, that will draw your opponent up to the net, that moment gives you an option of either a net touch, or flick your wrist at the last moment and leave your opponent feet glued to the ground.

    hard to put actions into words, give it a try mate...

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    lol i was supposed to practice catching birdies with my racket so that i could learn how to master picking up a birdie ;D. Now i can kill two birds with one stone. Thanks

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    Check out this video by a renowned coach JB Lee.
    Double and triple action!
    But you have to be able to get to the bird early enough to give you this option.
    Last edited by visor; 03-07-2011 at 07:57 PM.

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    if you are just a beginner, then focus on doing the netshot correctly first before trying to do fancy stuff.

    don't learn to run before you can walk.

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    thanks for the video and yes kwun you are correct i should learn to walk before i run =).But it doesnt mean i cant skip XD.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by winstonchan View Post
    start off my asking your coach or friend to throw shuttle over the net and you try to catch it with your racket, as high up near the white tape of the net as possible, like your racket following the shuttle coming down in the air and have the shuttle landed stably on the string bed. start off by standing by the net, then try standing at the T and leap a step to approach the net, practise that 100-200 times, until you can do it consistently.

    once you mastered that stroke, all deceptive / delayed action starts from there. when you're approaching the net, stick your racket out as usual, wait for the shuttle come over, like catching it, that will draw your opponent up to the net, that moment gives you an option of either a net touch, or flick your wrist at the last moment and leave your opponent feet glued to the ground.

    hard to put actions into words, give it a try mate...
    I say above couldn't be explained any other way

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    if you are just a beginner, then focus on doing the netshot correctly first before trying to do fancy stuff.

    don't learn to run before you can walk.
    indeed!

    if gade didn't have such great footwork, he wouldn't have got to CH's net shot as early as he did.

    and if you don't get to a net shot early enough, a deceptive shot is simply not possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badders2006 View Post
    indeed!

    if gade didn't have such great footwork, he wouldn't have got to CH's net shot as early as he did.

    and if you don't get to a net shot early enough, a deceptive shot is simply not possible.
    Partly agree with you badders2006, getting to the shuttle well in advance does have time advantage, but it's not the key to deceptive shots. The key to deceptive shots is delayed action, a fine and swift movement of the wrist and fingers, or turning your racket handle for change of direction. At the last second, your wrist could flick, or your wrist could lock. The opponent simply could not read your move at all. An example would be a player can jump 2 feet high at the back of the court and play a deceptive drop shot leaving the opponent standing at the back of his court. That has nothing to do with footwork.

    And I agree with Kwun, learn the basics before we deceive others, or we end up deceiving ourselves...
    Last edited by winstonchan; 03-09-2011 at 01:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winstonchan View Post
    An example would be a player can jump 2 feet high at the back of the court and play a deceptive drop shot leaving the opponent standing at the back of his court. That has nothing to do with footwork.
    Getting to the base with enough time to play the shuttle more than 12 ft above the ground is all about footwork.

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    I agree for singles, but when you're playing doubles, you don't need a lot of time to get to the base (unless you and your partner are both at the net).

    Footwork is important for the whole game, not just deceptive shots. Fine & delayed action of your wrist and fingers is the key to deceptive shots.

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    Is this shot an actual double motion shot or what is called the hold and hit shot?? Luks like a hold and hit cause I cant see the double motion

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    I dont know but he did it in another video against Lin Dan way back in 2003? <I think i dont really know. Lin Dan was wearing a black shirt with like a red fire like stripe

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