innovation/skill/sloppiness

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  1. kwun

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    i got to play with a cab21 again today. the last time i held a cab21 was probably 8 years ago. anyway. i found that the sweetspot of the cab21 is much smaller than my 900SR. i have to hit right at the center of the racket to get a nice response.

    so i am wondering, while i've been using the 900SR, which does have a much bigger sweet spot, am i getting more and more sloppy with my stroke? in other words. the isometric frame design can now cover up potential poor skills on our part. is that a good thing?

    btw, the cab21 feels as nice as it was 8 years ago. perfect stiffness, perfect balance.
     
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    As long as it doesn't break on you my friend. :)

    Back to your question... yes, this is my belief that with the bigger sweet spot, and larger surface area, and even long shaft on my Ti10, it does cover up a lot of slopiness... I remember when I was training with the blacken 8100... I was literally getting in so much trouble for not hitting precisely... so I took it upon myself to improve. Then when I switched to the Boron 200, everything clicked perfectly for me. Thanks to the training I recieved as well.

    I notice now with the isometric, I'm much more lazy with my shots than I ever was... I'm relying on the racquet too much to give me the power, I once generated on my own, and in all honesty, I played better using the regular length racquets... not necessarily has anything to do with a widebody frame, but the head was oval shaped.

    Perfect timing, everything was there.

    Now, my control, my timing, and again my power, is not what it used to be.

    Pretty sad if you ask me, that now we have to rely more on the racquets...

    Carbonex series was really good, because it was a no frills type of racquet, that gave you what you put into it. Also very reliable. Like man's best friend. :)
     
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    Traditional oval head racquets are still used by many of the world's top players.
    In the All-England, for the Men's doubles final, the hardest hitters were Halim and Sigit who were using oval head racquets. Food for thought on the question of generation of power.
     
  4. what are the major skills used in a game of badminton?
     
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    Hey kwun, are you now using cab21 as a measurement of "badness/sloppiness" ? :p
     
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    of course not. cab21 is a measurement of "perfection". :)
     
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    This sounds like a homework question... :)
     
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    i find that isometric does mess you up...with the little experience i have had with ISO's, i used an ISO for like a month and switched back to my AB900, i could NOT hit the ab900 in the sweetspot consistantly...so ya iso messes up your swing...dont know how it happens but it does. It makes you more sloppy and less precise
     
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    I actually use Isometric racquet to cover my "badness". I am playing less and less nowadays and using racquets with bigger sweet spot makes me feel a little bit better!
     
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    Hehehe...

    I'm surprised to hear this coming from you Viver. :)
     
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    Re: Hehehe...

    We're all humans.
     
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    That's why I still use cab - 8's. So I don't 'lose' it. :)
     
  13. Kelvin

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    Ohh! I love that racquet! :)
     
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    so does anyone swear by the iso frame design? everyone seems to hate it hah
     
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    Hey Kelvin, you won't expect me to be able to maintain my level by playing once a week. And no practice. My friends just go for the games! :-((
     
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    Come on... you're experienced enough to play :)
    If I can do it, I'm sure someone as experienced as you would be able to do it as well.
    Anyways, even if you do go once a week, I hope you kick some butt! :)
     
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    In any case...

    Yes, we're all human, I'm just surprised that Viver said that... :p

    Anywho... I'm just letting people know I'm switching back to the normal frames when my Carbonex racquets arrive... *duh!* :p

    That's another reason why I'm one Ti10.

    I'm going to use the other one in my collection. :)

    Cooler, has an excellent collection of classics, so I might as well start a 'new generation' collection. hehehe... maybe they'll be a museum one day?
    yeah right!

    Maybe somebody out there should start a collection of other brands, not Yonex?

    Here's an idea Kwun could implement when we have time...
    Survey's for the week???
    At random choose a question, and post it on the site for one week.

    Also perhaps we have an equipment hall of fame?
    Obviously we need a players hall of fame! :)

    That would be silly to focus on the equipment rather than the players, something which I'm just realizing is stupid of me....
    I'm taking more time this week to learn about the players. hehehe. ;)
     
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    Re: In any case...

    The less I play the less accurate I become. In fact my game is actually based more on strokes than power play. Speed is another issue. Health wise is also not good if not playing regularly as my joints complains a lot lately. I play with guys that practice 3/4 times a week but until now I'm still able to keep up with them. Not sure about that later.
     

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