03-12-2011, 08:18 PM #1
today's serve judge let me recall Yawen Zhang's 11 fault calls in WC 2006
and at least 8+ fault call in AE 2009.
AlsoTian Qing was called many times in the 1/4 finals. And their opponents were never been called.
03-12-2011, 09:01 PM #2
Hope this is not a tool to contain Chn's dominance like the world tried to do against CHN in table-tennis by manipulating the rules. I see this a cheap way of balancing powers, that is never seen in other sports like tennis.
03-12-2011, 09:18 PM #3
I also watched the whole game yesterday.
If the Danes players did the serve then the camera mostly from the front view (actually they can also always show it from the side view, because they got so many camera installed everywhere), but if the chinese players did the serve then the camera view mostly only from the side view.
Because camera angle view between front view and side view is totally different, if you know about the camera point of view... you will notice it will show different result.
So I would say it is not really fair for the badminton sport & especially since there is online badminton betting "THIS CAN REALLY TRICKY"
We are as badminton fans ... we just want to see a good badminton match. Well this is just my opinion
03-12-2011, 09:31 PM #4
I checked the game Carsten Mogensen & Mathias Boe Vs Jae Sung Jung & Yong Dae Leethe 2010 super series finals , the serve judge is a white male. You can see how high and how long delay when CM/MB served. Poor JSJ/YDL were totally ruined by Danes' serve. When they met at Korea premier 2011 in the end of the month. the Danes pair was easily defeated by the Korea pair. The serve judges made the huge difference
Last edited by cadlag; 03-12-2011 at 09:34 PM.
03-13-2011, 12:31 AM #5
CB serves were indeed a bit high but it wasnt higher than the others he has done before in the first game... calling it at 21-20 is totally innapropriate especially on a short serve...
as of Guo's call at 22-21... complete BS
those calls cleary affected the chinese pairs game not to mention gave away the first game to the danes...
besides MB serves so high as well and not to mention his stupid stalling but never gets called
03-13-2011, 12:41 AM #6
Only idiot takes risk and don't learn from it. Never allow service to affect your game. So, next time, learn to serve lower. IMHO.
03-13-2011, 12:46 AM #7
In China Open 2007, CHN judges faulted all non chinese players, Kido/Hendra got 7 or 8 service faults, ENG XD got 6 faults....
in HKG Open recently, all players, even Single players got faulted...unfortunately there is no standard and can be bias...it afftects all players especially in critical points....Saina, Chen Long, Hyaom, others got faulted for serve in HKG Open 2010
I believe many players complain about it..and if you look at statistics, most of short players ( unfortunately most are from asia) got foulted, especially in double...saw it many times like JJS, Kido got it
03-13-2011, 12:48 AM #8
The problem is they played already 40 points, and it's ridiculous that it was called only during match points for the Chinese teams, and for both of the Chinese players. And he even looked smug about it after a call. Hate it when a good game is ruined like this. They really need to re-evaluate the waist/rib rules for service.
03-13-2011, 12:53 AM #9
Agreed with you guys. I think bias calls happened everywhere but this was just too obvious. Unfortunately for the Koreans and Chinese when up against the Danes, it was called on them at the critical moments of the match and it kills them off.
On a side note, Boe's sportmanship is also very questionable. At one point when the replay clearly showed that the shuttle landed on the line (was called out by linesmen) and Boe was there seeing it, he gestured strongly to the Chinese pair that it was out whereby he knew it was good.
Is play-acting taking place in badminton?
03-13-2011, 01:09 AM #10
03-13-2011, 01:16 AM #11
I have been too many tournaments and I do believe that certain service judges will help certain teams...and it is hard for players to argue and I do not think Umpire can overrule...what players can do is to complain thru managers and manager will ask REFEREE and HEAD of Referee will watch from the side...thats only way....or biased line judging too...
If that happens on AE...thats really bad as traditionally AE is known as NEUTRAL place
03-13-2011, 01:16 AM #12
I just hope KKK/TBH will get a different service judge for tonite.
03-13-2011, 01:26 AM #13
With this shadow over AE, in addition to the organizational failures (LCW being informed 1hour in advance of his match, scoreboards that can't be seen, poorly managed websites, etc) I really question its status as a SSP. Korea Open had a bad name in the past but recently and especially this year they really lived up to their billing.
03-13-2011, 01:28 AM #14
03-13-2011, 01:34 AM #15
edit: when I say better managed i meant for the spectators/media. I believe player-wise they are generally satisfied? havent heard any major complaints from players
03-13-2011, 01:37 AM #16
03-13-2011, 04:00 AM #17
Originally Posted by ;1640373
As for those who say calling a fault at 21-20 is ridiculous time to call a fault, that is not a sensible statement to make. Are we supposed to call an amnesty on serves when it's a tie break?
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