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    VT80 89g, BP305...
    If I swing it fast enough, pull my hand right off...
    Druss, you must be a pretty tough kind of engineer...

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    Well the VT80 3U seems to be at the high end with the 4U also both at the high end. Even though the 4U range is supposed to be 80-84 grams I've never seen any 4U racket under 82 (my own experience).

    The MX80 though I think has less quality control since the "4U" is actually a light "3U" and the BP's are off by 7mm between 3U and 4U. As I've said in the past, there is always some variation but the MX80 "4U" should not have been labelled a 4U. The funny thing is that based on weight and BP I think I'm going to like the off spec MX80 4U the best...

    I think I'll save that VT80 3U for the days when I'm really feeling good.... Based on the weights maybe I'll see if anyone wants a heavy and head heavy VT80....

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    Quote Originally Posted by druss View Post
    Ok so I measured my rackets and also 1 more that my friend left with me for stringing and here are the prestringing weights and bps

    Arcsaber 8dx wt=88.8g, bp=289mm
    VT80 3U wt=89g, bp=305mm
    VT80 4U wt=83.2g, bp=306mm
    VT80 4U (2) wt=84.6g, bp=308mm
    MX80 3U wt=87.3g, bp=288mm
    MX80 4U wt=85.6g, bp=295mm

    Once I have them all strung I will provide those as well.
    Wow, quite a subtantial difference in 4U and 3U VT weights.

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    Don't know about u guys but the mx80 4u has the most ideal specs to me!



    Quote Originally Posted by druss View Post
    Ok so I measured my rackets and also 1 more that my friend left with me for stringing and here are the prestringing weights and bps

    Arcsaber 8dx wt=88.8g, bp=289mm
    VT80 3U wt=89g, bp=305mm
    VT80 4U wt=83.2g, bp=306mm
    VT80 4U (2) wt=84.6g, bp=308mm
    MX80 3U wt=87.3g, bp=288mm
    MX80 4U wt=85.6g, bp=295mm

    Once I have them all strung I will provide those as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mail43249 View Post
    Don't know about u guys but the mx80 4u has the most ideal specs to me!
    yes same here
    in fact if @druss is within my reach i would beg him to sell me the 4U MX80 hahaha LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naim.F.C View Post
    Wow, quite a subtantial difference in 4U and 3U VT weights.
    Substantial and normal from my experience. Yonex 3U's and 4U's actually are 3 and 4U's rather than just happened to fall on either end of the 85gr border and classified 3 and 4U. Personally I haven't had any 3U (675mm) under 88gr ... at least since I started to weight them as a result of this forum .

    I'm sure other must've seen it but on the badminton.cn & at700 forum they regularly do swingweight tests and quite often the 4U and 3U are quite similar in swingweight (haven't read how they actually test it) With the 4U's swinging above their weight and 3U's swinging lighter ...

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    It did feel quite heavy swinging but that's probably more the head heavy spec than the total weight. Hell, if the mx80 is better than the bs10 then I may have to buy a few more.

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    druss, did you get a chance to play with yours yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    druss, did you get a chance to play with yours yet?
    Eh? This might invite some interesting questions...

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    no, unfortunately, all the clubs in edmonton use schools (besides private clubs) and it was spring break. I'll get a chance on monday. wish there was a pay for play badminton facility here.

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    My MX80 is actually ever so slightly longer than both my BS10 and 8DX. By about half a centimetre. 3U version here. Guessing this is normal?

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    So I had a chance to play with both the MX80 and VT80, both rackets strung at 25x27 with BG66UM.

    I have to say that the 3U VT80 is a beast, while I do have a fairly strong wrist I'm not really that big (5'11'' and 170 lbs), when I do make good contact though I had everyone in the gym turning heads to look at me. Defense was a bit slow but when I did make contact I had to be careful not to put it long. Basically, this racket is all about the power as long as you can generate some swing speed. I don't recommend it for anyone who has not yet learned the proper stroke technique as if you try to swing this racket by bending your wrist (instead of pronating the forearm) you could easily hurt yourself.

    The 4U VT80 was better in that it was not as heavy, better defense but still at lot of power. Better racket for me I think, overall a bit head heavier than my 4U AT900P.

    The MX80's were great to play with as they were more even balanced. Great power (if not as powerful as the VT80), it's a better all round racket. Shots were crisp, great control but some vibration, especially on off center hits. I tried to compare it to my SW35 but I broke the strings on it after 1/2 a game.

    My MX80's were so close in spec it would come down to what string I had on it to make the difference. Not sure if I like it better than the BS10 yet, will need a few more hours with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naim.F.C View Post
    My MX80 is actually ever so slightly longer than both my BS10 and 8DX. By about half a centimetre. 3U version here. Guessing this is normal?
    Should be same 675mm.

    From previous experience, most likely your mx80 was strung with the crosses a tad too tight compared to the mains, hence elongating the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Should be same 675mm.

    From previous experience, most likely your mx80 was strung with the crosses a tad too tight compared to the mains, hence elongating the frame.
    Whilst this could be the case, I must also add that the width of the rackets (at the head) are the same, and the MX80 has an ever so slightly longer stem/handle measured from the exact same lowest outer grommet piece. So it's marginally longer not just at the head, but handle/step as well.

    EDIT: Just to add, standing both the BS10 and MX80 upright on a flat surface on their handle ends, confirms that the MX80 does indeed have a longer shaft and handle. The head actually starts about half a centimeter or so higher.
    Last edited by Naim.F.C; 04-07-2011 at 12:40 AM.

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    So Druss/Kwun, any further comparisons? Not just between the MX80 and VT80, but also 3U vs 4U with each racket. Mostly though, I just want to know how you guys are finding both rackets, and Druss, how you find it compared to the BS10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naim.F.C View Post
    So Druss/Kwun, any further comparisons? Not just between the MX80 and VT80, but also 3U vs 4U with each racket. Mostly though, I just want to know how you guys are finding both rackets, and Druss, how you find it compared to the BS10.
    I only got to play one other match with my MX80 as I'm still trying my other rackets to compare with. My 4U was only a couple grams lighter than my 3U so not much difference to be honest. TBH, I've had quite a bit of work and have missed a few badminton sessions in the last couple of weeks. I'm spending so much time in Calgary, AB that I think I'll have to start bringing my badminton stuff with me on my trips.

    Just a quick comparison with the BS10 though, the MX80 is slightly more powerful but the BS10 is still faster. I guess it just depends on the mood I'm in when I'm playing, and who I'm playing.

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    The voltric 80 is the best looking racket ive ever seen.

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