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    Quote Originally Posted by kwun View Post
    the million dollar questions are....

    why? why? why?

    why is the 72/76 holes different? why 76 holes is 16+6 where as 72 holes is 14+7 on the crosses?

    why can't we use the same pattern for the 21 cross and 22 cross, and just add one more cross string at the top?

    why is the top down "professional", and the bottom up "basic"?

    why are there 4 of them and i have to experiment 4 times and i don't have enough rackets to compare!


    why? why? why?
    I gave my answer already in my earlier post, for the PROFESSIONAL, the different between LEFT & RIGHT is NOT determined by 22X21, 22X22.....that is what I said it was misleading, both LEFT & RIGHT start the cross from L11, when you trace down one by one #13 cross of the LEFT comes out from Bottom Right 12 whereas the RIGHT #13 cross comes out from Bottom Right 13, in other words the RIGHT couldn't go back in the same pattern as the LEFT.
    Go experience yourself and come back for further discussion. Holding the pattern on a piece of paper doesn't get you anywhere.

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    Hi everybody

    Is it possible or can we make cross tension 2lbs higher than main tension in professional haribito?

    If, so, will it play better?

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    The Haribito Professional Pattern is basically All Around Stringing Pattern. After stringing the mains, it ensures the middle crosses (effecting hitting area) are strung from top to bottom. The outer mains and reaming top/bottom crosses are finished in a systematic way to ensure that they can be tied off at proper places. Check out tennis Around the Word Stringing Patterns: UKRSA Pattern: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIA2AKB3AJw Universal Pattern: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-LEiTpNrnk

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbi2004 View Post
    Hi everybody

    Is it possible or can we make cross tension 2lbs higher than main tension in professional haribito?

    If, so, will it play better?
    why not, I've used it ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloy66 View Post
    The Haribito Professional Pattern is basically All Around Stringing Pattern. After stringing the mains, it ensures the middle crosses (effecting hitting area) are strung from top to bottom. The outer mains and reaming top/bottom crosses are finished in a systematic way to ensure that they can be tied off at proper places. Check out tennis Around the Word Stringing Patterns: UKRSA Pattern: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIA2AKB3AJw Universal Pattern: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-LEiTpNrnk
    the Professional 22 x 21 is yes, almost similar to All around the world, but the right one (22x22) is different.
    I recognized many of old stringers has used similar to this Professional 22x21 pattern before, but they only use 1 or 2 top cross then tie-knot.
    Last edited by maa2003; 04-12-2011 at 04:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maa2003 View Post
    the Professional 22 x 21 is yes, almost similar to All around the world, but the right one (22x22) is different.
    I recognized many of old stringers has used similar to this Professional 22x21 pattern before, but they only use 1 or 2 top cross then tie-knot.
    Iíve tried Haribito Professional 22 x 22 Pattern. Iím pretty sure it is similar to UKRSA Pattern: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIA2AKB3AJw . Short side tied off at the bottom and long side tied off at the top. The only difference is for badminton, there are more crosses to finish off at the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloy66 View Post
    I’ve tried Haribito Professional 22 x 22 Pattern. I’m pretty sure it is similar to UKRSA Pattern: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIA2AKB3AJw . Short side tied off at the bottom and long side tied off at the top. The only difference is for badminton, there are more crosses to finish off at the top.
    that's what I said different ....

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    I want to know one thing:

    Does haribito pattern of Gosen differ from their teaching at seminars and conduct of their haribito exam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbi2004 View Post
    I want to know one thing:
    Does haribito pattern of Gosen differ from their teaching at seminars and conduct of their haribito exam?
    You should ask them directly.
    I have no idea whether we have one here in this forum ...

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    I have emailed to about 6 stringers from China & Korea who are haribito professionals as per gosen site, but I have not received any reply from them yet.

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    I got an reply from Gosen's Overseas Sales Div.. Their reply is quoted below:

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    What is the difference between "stringing as per Haribito System" and "your stringing pattern published in your catalogue"?
    Their reply:
    Stringing pattern published in our catalogue is just basic string pattern.
    "Stringing as per Haribito System" are more segmentakized ways.
    There are some kinds of ways.
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    I heard that the Haribito method (bottom up) is good for lower tensions whereas the "ATW" method (top to bottom) is better for high tensions.

    This seems to make sense as the higher tensions would be pushing downwards towards the bottom of the frame (where the frame is stronger).

    Any ideas?

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    I've tried the 22x21 stringing pattern posted earlier and it seems to how tension better than a 2 piece stringing method (bottom up - Yonex pattern).

    Anyone else try these patterns? Feedback?

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    Tried on my 2 x Z-Slash last nite

    Gosen Method No.3 22x21 method
    String: Babolat FINEBRAID MICRO STRING 0.67mm
    Tension 24 x 24

    Result : Racket shape - Un change
    Time to string - 45min (normally 30min)
    First Hit Very sharp sound
    After 2 hrs of play - tension maintains well
    Replusion in the sweet spot feels better

    Around the world 2 Knots
    String: Babolat FINEBRAID MICRO STRING 0.67mm
    Tension 24 x 24

    Result : Racket shape - Un change
    Time to string - 29min
    After 2 hrs of play - tension maintains well

    Conclusion: The hitting sound of the Gosen method is very different (much shaper)

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    video for the 76holes (22x21) professional pattern on an ARC9FL:


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    Folks, any new findings?

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    I would also like to know, since I;ve been doing the Yonex 4knots for awhile with top down instead of down up

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