Backhand technique

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  1. Jacek

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    nice that you guys are trying to learn it.

    a few comments.

    for the yellow guy.

    after the hit, don't rotate 360 degree. rotate back to where you started. if you rotate 360, you will lose sight of what is going on.

    for both, use more wrist and esp more finger power. both seems to be holding the racket too stiff.

    think of it like a whipping motion, right now you are just swiping and not whip.

    both did well with raising your elbow before the hit.

    how did the quality of the shot came out? did it reach the other end of the court?
     
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    Well, we have problem to hit it to the end line. We rather concentrate to hit very flat. The power is quite good, but we don't have enough strengh to get the shutlle to the end line. probably it's the problem with the wrist.

    I think we should be in front of the shutlle? Am I correct. Is the body position correct?
     
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    As kwun says, whipping and leading with elbow is very important.

    In those videos, perhaps you and your friend were a bit too ambitious to start with standing so far front and having to go back to hit the backhand that was well behind you.

    Why not just concentrate on your backhand stroke first, taken just above and in front of your racket shoulder? Later on, then you can add the footwork to go from mid court to back.
     
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    you guys got the fundamental which is good.. just need to relax your wrist more (more wrist and less elbow).......and as someone else said it is like a backward whip action ....dont stretch you arm after the impact with the shuttle ..
     
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    #6 cobalt, Apr 26, 2011
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    A picture is worth a thousand words. :)

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    But should the wrist accelerate on the end? Or should the movement be fluent?
     
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    Accelerate to snap at moment of strike.

    But please note it's wrist supination, not extension.
     
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    Ok, I'm working out my wrist. Every day I practise without shuttle. I will send some movies mayby next week and we will see if there will be any imporvement.

    And when I'm smashing, should I hold the racket stiff?
    I will make some movies how we are smashing.
     
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    Have you tried training your wrist (for backhand especially) by using a squash racquet? Or a saucepan? Or frying pan?
    If you do, remember to swing slowly to begin with; otherwise you may injure your wrist!
     
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    blue shirt guy should stop hitting mid stride... unless you're practicing to become a dancer.
    Plant your foot, then swing!!! Eliminates backwards momentum and bad timing = power and accuracy.
     
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    Footwork and positioning needs some work. Your leading foot should point toward where you care going. (i.e. if you are side stepping to the right, your foot should point toward the right instead of point toward the net) This'll help you get smoother to your backhand which leads to my next point:
    You hit your shot too far after it has passed your body. This takes away power from your shot. Optimally, you should hit the shot right as it gets next to you. This means you need to prepare and wind up for the shot earlier and hit it earlier.

    Since this is only advice that is not in person, so I would advise you to watch videos of professionals (i.e. Lee Chong Wei, Lin Dan) and pay attention to those specific things I mentioned in the video (point of contact, where their body is in relation to the bird, and their footwork)
     
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    Like mention above:

    blue guy pretty good but need some work on
    1-speed, hit bird before it pass your body
    2-racket head rotation to slow to generate enough power to push end line

    yellow guy hmmmm.... learn from the blue guy first
     
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    Backhand clear is one of the most difficult shots, because it's so different from the other shots. It requires lots of training, so don't panic!

    Blue guy: a few tips:
    - FOOTWORK: start with a split step
    - SWIPE MOTION: your right wrist should go lower, to your left hip
    - STROKE MOTION: use more rotation and a looser grip

    Good luck! You almost got it.

    @biggybil: you should hit birdie after it pass your body (or at same height)!
     
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    ^^
    Agree with everything, except...

    you should take the shot before the bird passes the body, a few inches before to be effective
     
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    I would debate with you on this but I dont want to type a diary.
    All I can say is after my 20 some odd years or training competing and now as a coach there is one thing I know is when you hit a bird that pass your body you cannot exert a complete stroke in laymen term... Means your late ... Back hand is no different then any other shot.

    Do sone googling or watch sone YouTube vidz u might know what Mean.

    Cheers and good practice!!:D
     
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    Right now I'm trying to relax a bit my wrist. i think all my bad habits came from this, that I was training volleyball for 6 years. We are going on court on sunday and Monday. We will make some backhand routine. Maybe I will record some moveis again.
     
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    just concentrate on the strokes first,

    stand closer to the mid rear to start with, so that you don't overstretch your footwork yet
     
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    Good advice so far, especially from visor. Focussing on the stroke first will not only avoid overstretching your footwork, but you don't REACH too far either - you don't want to have to stretch your arm too far.
     

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