Victor fans club

**soulsync** · 10-10-2012, 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko

I am also very confused , which one is stiffest racket in victor now..

Can any badminton fans help ?

MX80 for sure

**Ferrerkiko** · 10-10-2012, 01:12 AM

Hi Friend , so compare MX 80 VS superwave 35 VS Li Ning N90.

Which is the stiffest ?

**BlueTornado** · 10-10-2012, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko

Hi Friend , so compare MX 80 VS superwave 35 VS Li Ning N90.

Which is the stiffest ?

I believe that from stiffest to least stiff: SW35 > MX80 > N90.

**Ferrerkiko** · 10-10-2012, 01:20 AM

That means in terms of ranking stiffest is SW 35 , then MX 80 , lastly is N90..

How about JJS ?

**BlueTornado** · 10-10-2012, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko

That means in terms of ranking stiffest is SW 35 , then MX 80 , lastly is N90..

How about JJS ?

Should be less stiff than MX80, though I don't know how it compares to N90.

**leo11** · 10-10-2012, 01:29 AM

MX 80 no doubt stiffest victor

**loneboy62** · 10-10-2012, 02:53 AM

I think should be MX80 = SW35 < N90I

**loneboy62** · 10-10-2012, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by zionong

Hi, I am a Yonex player. Now somehow I got interested in getting Victor racket for me. But after reading the spec and chart(in comparing to yonex) and some reviews, I still cant understand. So I need some help here.

I want to get a similar racket with Yonex 900P(head heavy&stiff). I learnt that Meteor and Superwave are my choices. In comparing the chart with Yonex, looks like superwave 35/37 are head heavier than meteor JJS. But, I read some reviews from victor owned players here, they claimed that meteor JJS is actually heavier than superwave?? It confused me.

In addition to that, I have tried Bravesword LYD, that doesnt look like a head heavy racket to me, but from the victor chart 2012, BS LYD is actually head heavier than meteor JJS!!! This shocks me, lol.

So can anyone help? I am being confused to get superwave or meteor JJS or even meteor x80 for me.

I think is the matter of playing style. Yonex racket doesn't have so called Wind Breaking Technology, Octagon or BS's sword design, so it meant, you swing forward and backward faster so you can't feel that it is actually head heavy.

You are actually right, BS LYD is actually head heavier than MX JJS, but MX-JJS is slightly more flexible, so it generated more repulsion power but not arm power. That's why playing style makes some differences.

If you familiar with Yonex 900P and love it very much, I think Victor only have SW35 would suit your playing style, but I think you should proceed to try N90 version 1 or VTZF better, Victor shaft is not that stiff compare to some high end model in Yonex or Lining.

Just my 2 cents.

**Ferrerkiko** · 10-10-2012, 03:11 AM

Heard from reliable source from friend , most stiff racket in the market now is SW 35 and MX 80..

**Ferrerkiko** · 10-10-2012, 03:29 AM

MX 80 : Level：SUPER
Weight : 3U(85~89.9g) / 4U(80~84.9g)
String Tension LBS : 3U:H≦30 lbs V≦28 lbs / 4U:H≦28 lbs V≦26 lbs
Length : 675 mm
Balance：HH○●○○○HL
Shaft Stiffness：S●○○○○F
Frame Material : Ultra high modulus graphite+Nano Resin+Carbon XT
Shaft Material: Ultra high modulus graphite+Nano Resin +7.2 shaft

Victor JJS :

Level：SUPER
Shaft Stiffness：S○●○○○F
Balance：HH○●○○○HL
Length：675 mm
Weight：3U(85~89.9g) / 4U(80~84.9g)
String tension LBS：3U:H≦30Lbs~V≦28Lbs / 4U:H≦28Lbs~V≦26Lbs
Frame Material：Graphene Reinforced + Nano Resin + Carbon XT
Shaft Material：Ultra high Modulus Graphite + Nano Resin + 7.2 SHAFT
Grip size：G2 (3U/4U) ; G3 (3U)

Superwave 35
Shaft Stiffness: S●○○○○F
Length : 675 mm
Weight : 3U / 4U
String tension LBS : 3U:H≦30 lbs V≦28 lbs / 4U:H≦28 lbs V≦26 lbs
Frame : Ultra high modulus graphite+Nano Resin+E.TITANIUM
Shaft : Ultra high modulus graphite+Nano Resin +7.0 shaft
Balance：HH○○●○○HL
Grip size:G2

**loneboy62** · 10-10-2012, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by Ferrerkiko

MX 80 : Level：SUPER
Weight : 3U(85~89.9g) / 4U(80~84.9g)
String Tension LBS : 3U:H≦30 lbs V≦28 lbs / 4U:H≦28 lbs V≦26 lbs
Length : 675 mm
Balance：HH○●○○○HL
Shaft Stiffness：S●○○○○F
Frame Material : Ultra high modulus graphite+Nano Resin+Carbon XT
Shaft Material: Ultra high modulus graphite+Nano Resin +7.2 shaft

Victor JJS :

Level：SUPER
Shaft Stiffness：S○●○○○F
Balance：HH○●○○○HL
Length：675 mm
Weight：3U(85~89.9g) / 4U(80~84.9g)
String tension LBS：3U:H≦30Lbs~V≦28Lbs / 4U:H≦28Lbs~V≦26Lbs
Frame Material：Graphene Reinforced + Nano Resin + Carbon XT
Shaft Material：Ultra high Modulus Graphite + Nano Resin + 7.2 SHAFT
Grip size：G2 (3U/4U) ; G3 (3U)

Superwave 35
Shaft Stiffness: S●○○○○F
Length : 675 mm
Weight : 3U / 4U
String tension LBS : 3U:H≦30 lbs V≦28 lbs / 4U:H≦28 lbs V≦26 lbs
Frame : Ultra high modulus graphite+Nano Resin+E.TITANIUM
Shaft : Ultra high modulus graphite+Nano Resin +7.0 shaft
Balance：HH○○●○○HL
Grip size:G2

Ya, this chart is as what I have mentioned, but how about compare to Yonex/Lining, if you have something on this.

**Ferrerkiko** · 10-10-2012, 04:12 AM

For Z force:
Description:Stiffer frame with head-heavy balance for an exceptionally powerful swing.
Item Code:VTZF
Flex:Extra Stiff
Frame:H.M. Graphite, Sound Filter, EX-HMG, Tungsten
Shaft:H.M. Graphite, NANOPREME
Weight / Grip Size:4U (80-84.9g) G4,5
3U (85-89.9g) G3,4,5
Colour:Bright Green

ARCSABER 8DX

Description:Stiff DX Frame for sharp repulsion.Item Code:ARC8DX
Flex:Extra Stiff
Frame:H.M. Graphite, CS CARBON NANOTUBE
Shaft:H.M. Graphite, Ultra PEF
Weight / Grip Size:3U (85-89.9g) G3,4,5
2U (90-94.9g) G3,4,5
Colour:Copper Orange

ARCSABER 009DX
Description:Stiff DX Frame for sharp repulsion and NANOAIR SPRING for accurate control. Designed for hard hitting players.Item Code:ARC009DX
Flex:Extra Stiff
Frame:H.M. Graphite, NANOAIR SPRING
Shaft:H.M. Graphite, SUPER HMG
Weight / Grip Size:3U (85-89.9g) G3,4,5
Colour:Gloss Silver

VOLTRIC Z-FORCE LTD

Description:Stiffer frame with head-heavy balance for an exceptionally powerful swing.
Item Code:VTZFLTD
Flex:Extra Stiff
Frame:H.M. Graphite, Sound Filter, EX-HMG, Tungsten
Shaft:H.M. Graphite, NANOPREME
Weight / Grip Size:4U (80-84.9g) G4,5
3U (85-89.9g) G3,4,5Colour:White/GoldMade in:Japan

**tranqq** · 10-10-2012, 06:36 AM

Which is bigger between g2 and g3 in victor grip sizes

**visor** · 10-10-2012, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by tranqq

Which is bigger between g2 and g3 in victor grip sizes

Victor g2 is smaller than g3 and is Yonex g5. Yonex and Victor sizing is the opposite and the equivalent sizes add up to 7.

**visor** · 10-10-2012, 10:44 AM

Re extra stiff rackets, MX80 is one of the stiffest rackets around. The Yonex NS9000X comes pretty close. The VTZF not even close as you can very easily feel the shaft bend on power shots due to its head heaviness.

**j4ckie** · 10-10-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by visor

Re extra stiff rackets, MX80 is one of the stiffest rackets around. The Yonex NS9000X comes pretty close. The VTZF not even close as you can very easily feel the shaft bend on power shots due to its head heaviness.

Agreed - I would take the educated guess that the VTZF and MX80 have similarly stiff shafts, but the much heavier ZF head makes the racket feel softer and lessens the jarring impact

TBH I think no big brand has a stiffer racket than the MX in their current lineup.

**Accordaz** · 10-10-2012, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by j4ckie

Agreed - I would take the educated guess that the VTZF and MX80 have similarly stiff shafts, but the much heavier ZF head makes the racket feel softer and lessens the jarring impact :)
TBH I think no big brand has a stiffer racket than the MX in their current lineup.

Do you own both of them?

Am I right with my guess rating?
HH: N90 > VT80 > VTZF > MX80
Stiffness: MX80 > VT80 > N90 = VTZF

In opinion N90 needs very strong arm(s) to move it fast. Would you also say: MX-80 Users need very good technique/accuracy?
Or is it also playable for Amateur players?