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    Quote Originally Posted by jump-smash View Post
    but the downside is that MX70 feels more hollow than MX80 which is more solid ...
    Hmmm... I always thought that the woven frame gave the excellent feel to the mx80. So I guess the slightly less extra stiff shaft attenuates the feel in the mx70 despite having the same woven frame...

    Nevertheless, looks like I'll be waiting for the mx70 instead of trying out a 4u mx80.

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    Can't wait for th MX70 review. Would it be better for singles or doubles?

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    I think the 70 will be an awesome all-rounder with those specs. A BS11 style racket with more weight in the head that's almost as fast but packs more punch? Sign me up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naim.F.C View Post
    Lol I love the name! Can't wait to hear your impressions on both!
    I think I'll call it The Frankensword!

    You should see it. It looks like a dog chewed on it, and then some kid came along a put little Victor stickers all over it.

    A face only a mother could love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    I think I'll call it The Frankensword!

    You should see it. It looks like a dog chewed on it, and then some kid came along a put little Victor stickers all over it.

    A face only a mother could love.
    Lol. Sounds like a best selling novel in the works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Hmmm... I always thought that the woven frame gave the excellent feel to the mx80. So I guess the slightly less extra stiff shaft attenuates the feel in the mx70 despite having the same woven frame...
    Nevertheless, looks like I'll be waiting for the mx70 instead of trying out a 4u mx80.
    maybe the less stiff shaft could not handle the more head heavy frame ... who knows ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Porky View Post
    This specs seems similar to BS11? Anyway will suit me perfectly, coz MX80 is still considered stiff for me as i've injured my wrist b4 and it does gets abit painful whenever i gotta use my wrist as compared to a less stiff racquet
    yeah you can say that it's almost like a BS11 to a BS10 when comparing MX70 to MX80
    it's kinda weird when I try to compare MX80 (BP 292 mm) and SPR22 (BP 291 mm)
    MX80 HH o0ooo HL and SPR22 HH oo0oo HL on the cone
    but in reality when I swing them both and actually play with them
    MX80 feels a lot head heavier and SPR22 feels very much even balanced despite of BP differences only by 1 mm
    maybe this will be the case with MX80 BP 292 mm and MX70 BP around 295 mm
    but MX70 feels a lot more head heavy than MX80 despite of the difference only a few mm

    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    As long is it's not as hollow as a Head Metallix, I'm not really that fussed.

    Man, how am I going to survive the next 24hrs before I get to play with my new MX80 and FrankenBravesword!
    I don't think it's that hollow
    Head Metallix is 5U right ?
    Last edited by jump-smash; 05-17-2011 at 02:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jump-smash View Post
    maybe this will be the case with MX80 BP 292 mm and MX70 BP around 295 mm
    but MX70 feels a lot more head heavy than MX80 despite of the difference only a few mm
    Is that playing bp or naked bp for both?

    Because having different grips and different colored grips can have a significant effect on changing the bp, depending on the differing masses of the the grips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Is that playing bp or naked bp for both?
    Because having different grips and different colored grips can have a significant effect on changing the bp, depending on the differing masses of the the grips.
    that's playing BP for both of them strung with the same string and wrap with the same overgrip
    both are 3U G2
    so it will be fair enough for them both

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    Quote Originally Posted by jump-smash View Post
    that's playing BP for both of them strung with the same string and wrap with the same overgrip
    both are 3U G2
    so it will be fair enough for them both
    Hmmm... In that case, perhaps the mx70 weighs 1-2 g heavier than the mx80, despite both being 3U.
    I just can't imagine why 3 mm bp difference would feel so much more head heavier ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    Hmmm... In that case, perhaps the mx70 weighs 1-2 g heavier than the mx80, despite both being 3U.
    I just can't imagine why 3 mm bp difference would feel so much more head heavier ...
    beats me too
    but then how could you explain MX80 feels a lot head heavier than SPR22 ???
    MX80 total weight 93.8 grams BP 292 mm
    SPR22 total weight 94.5 grams BP 291 mm

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    Because it depends on where the weight is distributed.

    Get 2 10g sticks and 2 pieces of clay, both weighing 50g. On one sick, place the entire ball at the end. On the other, distribute it all over the stick except for where you hand is.

    Both weigh 60g but both feel completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    Because it depends on where the weight is distributed.

    Get 2 10g sticks and 2 pieces of clay, both weighing 50g. On one sick, place the entire ball at the end. On the other, distribute it all over the stick except for where you hand is.

    Both weigh 60g but both feel completely different.
    I agree about the distribution of mass, ie frame, t joint or shaft.

    But your example doesn't work, because the bp is obviously very different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by visor View Post
    I agree about the distribution of mass, ie frame, t joint or shaft.

    But your example doesn't work, because the bp is obviously very different.
    His physics failed. That's why. You should put some weight at the T joint and on another racket put a lower weight at the end of the racket. Adjust the weight so that the balance point is the same. I'm sure the racket will swing very differently.

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    Where in my post did I say the BP would be the same? The question was "Why does it feel head heavier?". It feels head heavier because of the weight distribution, so why complicate the illustration?

    Comprehension fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    Where in my post did I say the BP would be the same? The question was "Why does it feel head heavier?". It feels head heavier because of the weight distribution, so why complicate the illustration?

    Comprehension fail.
    Speaking of which...
    If you had read jumpsmash's post before yours above, you'll understand we're discussing about 2 rackets with almost the same wt and bp that swing differently.

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    I'm sorry if my over-simplified example wasn't detailled enough for you. Maybe you can add some lengthy equations here so you feel better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklike Tier View Post
    I'm sorry if my over-simplified example wasn't detailled enough for you. Maybe you can add some lengthy equations here so you feel better?
    Apology accepted.

    I feel better already!

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