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**Nauroa** · 02-14-2012, 03:28 AM

Well... How a racket feels is asways individual, but I'd say there is pretty much no chance you'll feel the VT80 and BS11 plays alike. Even though I'd suggest getting a light 3u and not a 4u of the bs11, but that is just personal preferance.

**ioxyg3n520** · 02-14-2012, 03:32 AM

Is the 4u really that useless? Lol

**Nauroa** · 02-14-2012, 03:39 AM

Not useless. It's just that the bs series plays very fast already, so you might want a bit of weight to get the power you'll need.

My dream BS11 is something like 94-95g and 290mm when strung and gripped. I'm not much of a smasher so this will give me enough power to clear and drive, while keeping my defense hot hot hot.

**ioxyg3n520** · 02-14-2012, 03:44 AM

OK then I guess 3u is to go. But any recommendations on 11 vs 12?

**Nauroa** · 02-14-2012, 04:04 AM

I got both and I like the bs11 the most. I don't feel like I can get enough power out of my bs12.

**j4ckie** · 02-14-2012, 04:11 AM

I'd recommend the 11 rather than the 12, which is less head heavy. Both are quick, but the 11 still packs a punch if used correctly, while the 12 is harder to get a powerful smash with.
Don't worry that any of them will be too head heavy/stiff - all Braveswords are quicker than any Arcsaber I've tried, and much quicker than the VTs. The stiffest is the BS10, which is still noticeably softer than a VT80 (and which you won't get).

If you're unsure about the 11, I'd recommend the 09 rather than the 12, it's very similar but still a tad head heavier. Makes it easier to clear and smash with, although I can't say I had any problem at all getting to the baseline with the BS12.

**moomoo** · 02-14-2012, 08:34 PM

if you're shifting from a VT80 you'd might like the BS10 more as its stiffer than the BS11.

According to the archive I have been collecting, the BS10 and BS11 have the same balance points anyways
BS10: 296, 297 / 95g wet
BS11: 292 dry, 295 3u wet, 297 3u wet

**ioxyg3n520** · 02-14-2012, 09:23 PM

would the BS12 be better if I wanted a racket that is like even balanced or not head heavy? And is the BS12 really like SUPER flexible or just medium?

**visor** · 02-14-2012, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by ioxyg3n520

would the BS12 be better if I wanted a racket that is like even balanced or not head heavy? And is the BS12 really like SUPER flexible or just medium?

still at it?!

to save you all this time on the forum, i have a lightly used 2 chipped 3u bs12 that i can mail to you at an agreeable price for you to see yourself

**ioxyg3n520** · 02-14-2012, 09:36 PM

hmm lol yea haha xD I really wanted to make ure LOL because after reading a few other peoples post, people said that the the BS 11 is actually head heavy justnot AS much as the VT80, so I didnt wan't another head heavy racket u know ;D so yea.

**visor** · 02-14-2012, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by ioxyg3n520

hmm lol yea haha xD I really wanted to make ure LOL because after reading a few other peoples post, people said that the the BS 11 is actually head heavy justnot AS much as the VT80, so I didnt wan't another head heavy racket u know ;D so yea.

trust me... i also have a 4u vt80... there aren't too many rackets out there that are head heavier than a vt80, perhaps n90 or at700 or the upcoming vt-zf

so any other racket will feel head lighter in comparison right after playing with a vt80!

**ioxyg3n520** · 02-14-2012, 09:45 PM

I guess i understand that he BS11 will be headlighter than the vt80, but by just a little or a lot? Because I think I like even or headlight rackets a little bit better because i can smash pretty fast/hard with those.

**visor** · 02-14-2012, 09:55 PM

then really your choice would be between bs10 or bs11, first one stiff and latter one less stiff

even if their bp is around 290-295mm, they play 5-10mm head lighter due to the thinner head frame cross section

**ioxyg3n520** · 02-14-2012, 09:58 PM

Do you know if the head heavyness of the BS11 is just a little less than the VT80 or a lot?

**visor** · 02-14-2012, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by ioxyg3n520

Do you know if the head heavyness of the BS11 is just a little less than the VT80 or a lot?

i would say quite a lot... because not only is there at least 10-15mm in bp difference, more important is the difference in the cross section designs of the bravesword series vs the voltric series

one is one of the thinnest and fastest design of all badminton rackets for aerodynamic reasons

and the other is one of the sturdiest design for power reasons

so please don't just look at bp numbers alone

**ioxyg3n520** · 02-14-2012, 10:15 PM

You know how you said you couldn't deal with the BS12 because you felt it was wayy too flexible. Are you like a very strong smasher or hitter or soemthing?

**visor** · 02-14-2012, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by ioxyg3n520

You know how you said you couldn't deal with the BS12 because you felt it was wayy too flexible. Are you like a very strong smasher or hitter or soemthing?

I'm not that strong.

. The 4u vt80 is training me to be though.

. I'm just fast with my swing, so I tend to do better with stiff shafts. Otherwise the head is still lagging behind a tad when I make contact with the bird.