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    Default BS12 (KRP) and BS12N (KRP) - My Measurements

    This is a post for those of us who get mildly excited by racquet specifications! lol

    As one of the most popular badminton racquets ever made and the Korean preferred choice of weapon, this racquet hardly needs an introduction. So here it is, the Victor Bravesword 12 KRP and the Bravesword 12N KRP.

    For those who aren't aware, KRP versions are the racquets made specifically for the Korean team players. Hence KoRean Player (KRP serial code).

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    It took me a while to get hold of these racquets, which are apparently amongst the last batch of BS12 KRPs ever to be made. They arrived strung and with the cellophane plastic wrapping removed. This was a little disappointing as I wanted to get measurements without strings and with the wrapping still on. Still, at least the original grip is on so I can work backwards.

    Here are the measurements I took with a pair of digital vernier callipers and a digital scale. A few surprises as I took the measurements so this may interest others.

    Note: The shaft length has been measured from the crest of the “sword” shape at the t-joint to the trough at the top of the plastic cone.


    BS12 KRP, 3U/G5, NBG99@31lb 2-knot.
    Plastic wrapping removed but with original grip.

    · Frame Width 12 o’clock = 10.48mm
    · Frame Width 3&9 o’clock = 10.70mm
    · Shaft Thickness = 7.21mm
    · Shaft Length = 224mm
    · Balance Point = 303mm [Est. Dry BP with plastic wrap = 291mm]
    · Weight = 89.3g [Est. Dry weight with plastic wrap = 88.3g]
    · Head Weight = 40.2g [with strings]


    BS12N KRP, 3U/G5, NBG99@31lb 2-knot.
    Plastic wrapping removed but with original grip.

    · Frame Width 12 o’clock = 10.46mm
    · Frame Width 3&9 o’clock = 10.85mm
    · Shaft Thickness = 7.27mm
    · Shaft Length = 225mm
    · Balance Point = 304mm [Est. Dry BP with plastic wrap = 292mm]
    · Weight = 89.5g [Est. Dry weight with plastic wrap = 88.5g]
    · Head Weight = 40.5g [with strings]


    And just for comparison here are the figures for my other BSs.

    BSLYD, 3U/G5, BG80P@30lb 2-knot.
    Plastic wrapping intact with several overgrips.

    · Frame Width 12 o’clock = 11.17mm
    · Frame Width 3&9 o’clock = 11.45mm
    · Shaft Thickness = 7.51mm
    · Shaft Length = 229mm
    · Balance Point = 300mm [Dry with plastic wrap]
    · Weight = 91g [Dry with plastic wrap]
    · Head Weight = 45.9g [with strings, overgrips and bulge]


    BSLHI, 3U/G5, NBG99@31lb 2-knot.
    Plastic wrapping intact with several overgrips and bulge.

    · Frame Width 12 o’clock = 10.52mm
    · Frame Width 3&9 o’clock = 10.81mm
    · Shaft Thickness = 7.40mm
    · Shaft Length = 229mm
    · Balance Point = Unknown
    · Weight = Unknown
    · Head Weight = 42.5g [with strings, overgrips and bulge]


    BS10, 3U/G5, NBG99@31lb 2-knot.
    Plastic wrapping intact with several overgrips and bulge.

    · Frame Width 12 o’clock = 10.31mm
    · Frame Width 3&9 o’clock = 10.87mm
    · Shaft Thickness = 7.30mm
    · Shaft Length = 229mm
    · Balance Point = 290mm [Dry with plastic wrap]
    · Weight = 88g [Dry with plastic wrap]
    · Head Weight = 43.4g [with strings, overgrips and bulge]


    BS11, 3U/G5, NBG99@31lb 2-knot.
    Plastic wrapping intact with several overgrips and bulge.

    · Frame Width 12 o’clock = 10.24mm
    · Frame Width 3&9 o’clock = 10.88mm
    · Shaft Thickness = 7.35mm
    · Shaft Length = 228mm
    · Balance Point = 292mm [Dry with plastic wrap]
    · Weight = 90g [Dry with plastic wrap]
    · Head Weight = 42.3g [with strings, overgrips and bulge]

    At the time of writing this, I have yet to play with the KRPs although I have had a few initial swings and test shots at home. My initial impression was that they are at the top end of the “even balanced” band, headlighter than my BSLYD and one of my BS11s but a touch head heavier than my BS10 and BSLHI. The shaft length was noticeably shorter by about 5mm which coincided with a lengthening of the grip by about the same amount. The BP and Head Weight perhaps suggests that it is headlighter than it feels?

    Bending the shaft statically, it actually did not feel that stiff – particularly for a short shaft. It was on par if not a touch less stiff compared with my much loved BS11 and BSLHI but I need to play with it to know what the stiffness is like. I would love to compare this with a commercial BS12 and see what, if indeed there are any differences.

    There has been quite a few comparisons between the BS12 KRP and the BSLYD given their association with LYD and their apparent close specifications, with some saying that they are essentially the same racquet. This was one question I was keen to find the answer to. And I can confirm that these two racquets are completely different. The most obvious difference is in the shape of the sword frame. The BSLYD sword shape is a lot bulkier and wider, the head shape is different and the shaft is longer and thicker. The BS12 KRP has a much sharper sword edge, it is also thinner in profile. One of the photos above is an overlay of the BS12 KRP on top of the BSLYD. It’s difficult to tell from a photo, but you can just make out where the shape of the BSLYD head is slightly different – although we must bear in mind that I strung the BSLYD but not the BS12 KRP.

    All in all, the BSLYD feels slower than the BS12 aerodynamically but the stiffness is perhaps about the same albeit the head weight differences. If anything, I would say the BS12KRP is actually much closer to my BSLHI and BS11 than to my BSLYD in terms of geometry except for the shaft/grip length. The sword section and the shaft thickness are about the same.

    Bouncing the shuttle on the strings, it has quite a nice solid feel and I sense it may even have a larger sweetspot than my BS11 and BSLHI. But can’t be sure until I’ve played with it. I’m still deciding whether to store them away with the rest of my unused collection of racquets or just use them – but with a big possibility of damaging them. What do you think?

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    Whoa! Lots of info... will need time to digest...

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    Interesting read...
    Wish u have BS12 blue as a direct comparison to ur KRPs.

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    Interesting to see that the BS09 KRP 3UG2 (YY G5) I recently acquired is more head heavy than BS12 KRP at BP 308mm strung with factory grip. The regular BS09 that I have is nearly as head heavy but it has a different grip and is a G3.

    I also have a BS12N KRP 3UG5 and it has a BP of 304mm too measured the same way as above, and I should be getting a BS12 KRP soon so I'll check it when I get it. I have a regular BS12 so I can compare it directly hopefully sometime this week.

    But I have the same problem as you...whether to use it and risk damage or store it I've tried the BS12N KRP though and it just feels like a stiffer version compared to the regular one but still nice to use.

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    But still need to measure a regular BS12 for proper direct comparison...

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    Ok, I decided to rip the overgrip off my regular BS12 3UG3 and found the BP to be 304mm strung and with the original grip I don't have any scales though.

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    Nice share mate. Thanks a lot for sharing with us!

    I dare not strung mine, and just place it to the collection shelves.


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    So, have we decided if the KRP is stiffer than the regular version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clawhammers View Post
    Nice share mate. Thanks a lot for sharing with us!

    I dare not strung mine, and just place it to the collection shelves.

    Thanks.

    I collect racquets too, probably over 60 racquets now.. but although I like to keep them in good condition, I started collecting racquets because I wanted to see what they're like and if they suit me.

    Often the case has been that they don't but I wouldn't let them go. But the BS12 is different. My initial impressions of it is that it is very close to my BS11 and BSLHI... which probably means it is one I would like to play with.

    So, given that the BS12N is perhaps the one I would rather damage if I had to choose between the two, I have prepped it ready for battle tonight.

    I wouldn't worry about stringing them as the commercial version is capable of sustaining 32+lb so I would have no concerns about stringing the KRP version providing they are in good condition.

    One other thing to share, I noticed on the two BS12s the red grommets are a bit longer than all my other BSs. Just wondering if this is the same for the normal BS12s.

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    Very nice post, lots of info..tq.

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