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    Anything 'stiff' is usually not recommended for beginners, but once past a certain level, it depends on your style of play.

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    Yes , basic foot works must be there , basic strokes, such as rally , drop, smashes, net, tap , drive . All these there then you decide which racket is suitable for you.

    Personally i feel N90 is stiffest of all, follow by victor SW 35/MX80. As for Z force i am not sure , not willing to comment , let other fans here give their opinion .

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    Really really cannot agree on the N90 being that stiff. True, it's a pretty stiff racket, but nothing in comparison to the MX80. It's also a lot less jarring to wield - the more massive head and thus easier-to-flex shaft make it a lot easier to use than the MX80. N90II plays at least as stiff (as the N90), but not as head heavy which makes for a more balanced racket.

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    Even if the racket is label atthe same stiffness but due to other technical spec, it will feel different if you play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accordaz View Post
    Do you own both of them?

    Am I right with my guess rating?
    HH: N90 > VT80 > VTZF > MX80
    Stiffness: MX80 > VT80 > N90 = VTZF


    In opinion N90 needs very strong arm(s) to move it fast. Would you also say: MX-80 Users need very good technique/accuracy?
    Or is it also playable for Amateur players?
    From personal experience (testing both Voltrics, owning N90&MX80), I'd put the ZF above the 80 in both head heaviness and stiffness. Especially stiffness.
    Also, your statement about the MX80 is correct. Without good solid technique, very centred hitting and a fast swing you probably wont enjoy much success with this racket.
    Not to say that you wont enjoy using it (it has incredibly direct feedback, at times I just feel like I can change my mind about the shot at the last 100th of a second and still get it right), but it's so stiff you can very well completely lose your sting in doubles (happens to me - I have it strung pretty tightly with a 33 BG65 which adds to that, but between that and a BS12 with a 31 VS800 theres just no comparison ).

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    The Forza Ti550 VS is stiffer than anything. Even the MX80. That freakin' thing is unplayable....made worse by the 96 hole stringing pattern.

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    yup...Froza is even stiffer than ZF

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    ZF doesn't even play in the same league

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    all of them dosent play in the same league

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    For those people here who don't like stiff rackets, I will recommend brave sword 12, not a heavy racket , it's medium flex, currently use by taiwan double pair lee sheng mu.

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    Just to share with victor fans here what the top players are using now :

    1) Nguyen Tien Minh MX 70 , VS850
    2) Fang Chieh Min BS 10, VS800
    3) Lee Sheng Mu BS 12, VS 800
    4) Lee Yong Dae BS LYD, VS 850
    5) Jung Jae Sung MX JJS, VS850
    6) Shon Wan Ho , MX 80, VS850

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    their string choice are either VS800 and 850

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    Yes, VS 850 is the most popular between thee taiwan and korea players.

    I prefer it than Yonex strings

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    By the way Lee Sheng Mu BS 12 is using the new edition of brave sword 12.

    BS 12 is good, as its a med flex racket and not a stiff racket.

    Its a good choice for people who like Mid flex rackets.

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    How much is the blue BS12 in Singapore?

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    BS 12 in singapore is around $190, but is the old color , black and blue.

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    I like the old colour. look like its the same price as the MX80

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