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05-06-2011, 02:18 AM #1
** Stringway cross-stringer for badminton**
I just received congratulations for my birthday so I thought maybe I can reply with a useful message:
Our cross stringers for tennis seem to work well and we get quite some inquiries for the same tool for badminton.
So we decided to updated the design so that it is most suitable for badminton and made a proto-unit.
The tool works better than we expected with the much thinner badminton strings.
We will make a small series to test the market soon.
The price for the badminton unit will certainly be lower than that of the tennis units, because of some design changes.
05-06-2011, 02:20 AM #2
Got any pics? need a tester?
05-06-2011, 02:38 AM #3
I will make a jpg from the 3D design system, the proto is not so suitable for a picture.
There are some Dutch badminton stringers already in the queue.
05-06-2011, 05:19 AM #4
05-06-2011, 04:35 PM #5
The design is only good for stringing 10 crosses and I wonder how much time one can really save or maybe even more time consuming. Brilliant idea but not Kaizen at all.
05-06-2011, 04:58 PM #6
05-07-2011, 02:49 AM #7Eagnas did it before you ......
We have all the Eagnas units.
Our badminton unit is completely different.
You can do all crosses up to the last 3.
The trick is that you position the unit at the throat side of the string area and leave it there all the time. The unit does not have to be in line with the holes in the grommets.
One of the questions that we have is: Do we put 18 or 20 mains in the unit.
And of course we tested how much faster it is with the unit compared to without.
You weave faster and more relaxed and you can pull the string through faster without friction. So it is better for the string also.
agreed. the total time for weaving a cross string maybe 10 seconds? the setup and overhead time for using such a tool must be taken into consideration as well.
We did not measure the time yet, but I estimate that you need 2 seconds to put it through the unit and perhaps 2 to 3 seconds to go through the grommet and pass the 2 (or 4) free strings.
I would like to see a stringer who can do it so fast,
05-07-2011, 06:18 AM #8
We are not interested in producing a product that does not add anything, we have enough products so w are not just looking for new products.
So perhaps we can do an objective test together so that we find out what the advantage of the tool can be:
We can compare the time needed to insert 10 cross strings without tensioning.
To avoid extra time loss we enter those strings without double holes, so start at the 5th or 6th string from the top.
What do you think?
05-07-2011, 06:24 AM #9
i think that will be valuable.
but we should further reduce variables. unless the tool helps threading the string through grommet holes, let's take that out of the test too.
we can take a video and time how long it takes to thread the string through 22 main strings, starting after the string has been threaded through the grommet.
a few of us can try that as well as taking a look at previous videos we have of pro stringers. then we can see how the tool compare with amateur as well as pros.
05-07-2011, 03:49 PM #10
We appreciate this kind of cooperation.
The more input we get the better the tool will be
I think it is better to leave single grommet holes in otherwise it is difficult to get the time for more then one string.
We have to compare the total cycle time including switching the tool for the next string
05-07-2011, 05:34 PM #11
cool. i will volunteer myself as a amateur stringer. others can do it too. i also have videos of pro stringer to do a comparison.
others can join in too. we will upload videos to youtube and share here. and i will suggest including a watch/clock in the video as a comparison.
i also suggest we just do the weaving, no tensioning/clamping as that varies between machine and machine types.
05-08-2011, 02:48 AM #12
I suggest we make a special offer for those on the "test team" for their contribution to the development.
I agree; no clamping and tensioning.
05-09-2011, 04:09 PM #13
I would like to offer my time to test your device. Also, I will only report my experience to you. I will consider this as a confidential info other than the time comparison which I will post if I can do the test for you.
05-10-2011, 03:10 AM #14
id like to give it a go and see how efficient it is
05-10-2011, 05:01 AM #15I would like to offer my time to test your device. Also, I will only report my experience to you. I will consider this as a confidential info other than the time comparison which I will post if I can do the test for you.
id like to give it a go and see how efficient it is
The major questions that we have to get answers to are:
* Does such a unit offer enough gain in time? Therefore we need to know how fast badminton stringers can weave.
So the question is: how fast do you weave 10 strings (without double holes) without tensioning and clamping.
* What features does the tool need to do as many crosses as possible.
The ideas are:
- That we use only one site of the tool (for tennis we can use both), and that all strings from the first one at the head site can go through (although this may depend on the type of racquet.
- To choose for 2 free main strings at each side. So 18 mains in the tool.
Perhaps you can look at the video of the tennis unit and come up with remarks then.
The time to put the string through will not be very different for the badminton unit I think,
05-10-2011, 06:33 AM #16
It only looks beneficial to people who can't or don't know how to weave. To put this in perspective, YULitle (on youtube) can weave a cross in roughly the same time as the tool already set up, without all the extra time of setting up and adjusting the tool for every cross. The tool looks really fiddly and annoying to me.
05-10-2011, 07:10 AM #17It only looks beneficial to people who can't or don't know how to weave.
So he tried to beat the tool in a couple of crosses.
And speed is only one advantage of using the tool.
Please understand that you have to compare a stringer who is experienced with the tool with an experienced one without it!
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