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    Quote Originally Posted by taneepak View Post
    In my opinion your theory is wrong, but if you prefer slippery string then you should do what you like.
    About 4 months ago, I landed on a recently waxed floor after a jump smash and slipped, injuring my right knee. This is one intance a slippery thing doesn't work for me.
    I am sure in Indonesia you may come across certain extremely high humidity conditions that leave a film of water on the court surface. I challenge you to play on such a surface.
    That's what I mean , in slippery floor, we can't stop right. It's because we got no friction. Friction is something that actually is holding us on our ground, stopping our car from crashing. Friction is slowing us down, and helping us to grip. Meanwhile, if we slide the cock, in theory it should run faster than it should. If we can control this, we can use less energy, conduct shot faster, but not sure about the power. The calculation about this is really really complicating. It's my opinion up there . I'll fix it so it would be clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K4mu1 View Post
    Yes... sorry for making a personal opinion xD...

    Back to the filaments xD... If I we're to land above those filaments, I will get slower... And being launched from them (Since we all believe that we're using trampoline effect on string beds theory) more slippery surface should provide a better speed compared to surface with better grip (in this case filaments). Since the friction from the string bed (returning to normal condition) would slow the shuttlecock down. That's from my view xD...

    I won't say very slippery one would be wonderful, since... It will be very hard to hit it on time. Just like high tensions. It will be too fast, since the shuttlecock is not having a friction, which is also important. So, my opinion is, waxing our string is another preference. I use BG68Ti... And I like the slippery part of it (I believe it's getting rough by dust in Indonesia xD). And I have to clean it out and wax it so that it'll be back to slippery condition.

    Or perhaps my theory is wrong
    No Longer Editable -_-x... I guess that's all the important points.

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    K4mu1, if you have a slippery surface, of course you will slip and fall very fast. But we are not trying to find out what type of surface makes people fall all over the floor faster. You have taken a wrong turn. The objective is to jump up as high as you can, and floors which are not slippery are better. Slippery floor is the winner if you want to fall all over the place, but you will not be able to jump even 1 foot on a slippery floor. Hitting a shuttle is having two objects collide, not to slide off from each other.

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    Yes.. that's also true. Well... let's fix my view. How do we call something slippery? If we're using a certain footwear, with bad bad bad outsole, we're definitely going to slide even in a good floor. Instead an outsole with a good grip will be fine. So slippery is also preference. I'm not saying a very slippery String will be wonderful.

    Let's treat the outsole as the surface of the cock, and the floor as the string bed, we'll be concluding, the point of how good a grip is and how bad a slide is, is based on the cock we're playing with.

    Surface of cock will have certain texture, this texture will provide a good grip. This is why, I'm saying that waxing is another preference, because some people might like the slipper surface (wax is not so slippery, actually they also provide certain different gripping feeling) rather than the gripper surface.

    My point is, wax will also slightly increases durability due to their more slipper surface, and they're acting as the damper between the main and the crosses. The feeling is different based on the amount of wax applied. They're just like oil to the engine. Giving certain level of protection. But, not everyone will enjoy the effect, so if you're waxing your string, you will have to do it right, in a right amount, and if you dislike it, you will have to know how to clean them away.

    This is my opinion xD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K4mu1 View Post
    Yes.. that's also true. Well... let's fix my view. How do we call something slippery? If we're using a certain footwear, with bad bad bad outsole, we're definitely going to slide even in a good floor. Instead an outsole with a good grip will be fine. So slippery is also preference. I'm not saying a very slippery String will be wonderful.

    Let's treat the outsole as the surface of the cock, and the floor as the string bed, we'll be concluding, the point of how good a grip is and how bad a slide is, is based on the cock we're playing with.

    Surface of cock will have certain texture, this texture will provide a good grip. This is why, I'm saying that waxing is another preference, because some people might like the slipper surface (wax is not so slippery, actually they also provide certain different gripping feeling) rather than the gripper surface.

    My point is, wax will also slightly increases durability due to their more slipper surface, and they're acting as the damper between the main and the crosses. The feeling is different based on the amount of wax applied. They're just like oil to the engine. Giving certain level of protection. But, not everyone will enjoy the effect, so if you're waxing your string, you will have to do it right, in a right amount, and if you dislike it, you will have to know how to clean them away.

    This is my opinion xD.
    Yes, you are absolutely right in saying waxing strings will prolong their life. As a matter of fact, strings may even last more than a year. This is ok if this is what you are looking for. As for me, I like strings to have grip for control purposes, and wear and tear is of no concern to me. As a matter of fact, I almost never wait for my strings to wear out, because I cut them and restring with new ones at least once every 2 months. To me strings that are two months old have lost too much of their playability.
    I recently strung (just three weeks) an NBG98 at 29/31lbs and I am ready to call it a day and switch over to a new ML67 string (5,000 microfilaments), because I have a similar racquet strung with this new thin ML string that plays better and for longer.

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    Well... No >.< I'm not after the durability, It's just another benefit point xD... I just like the way BG68Ti going with the wax. It feels... Nice (For me). Well it's everyone preference right xD. Just reading this article through, and lots of people is saying different opinion about this xD. And since I do this thing, I provide my own argument.

    Anyway, it's an honor to debate with you Master taneepak xD. Thanks for your opinion, it provide me another view xD. And... why did you cut the string after 2 mths anyway...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K4mu1 View Post
    Well... No >.< I'm not after the durability, It's just another benefit point xD... I just like the way BG68Ti going with the wax. It feels... Nice (For me). Well it's everyone preference right xD. Just reading this article through, and lots of people is saying different opinion about this xD. And since I do this thing, I provide my own argument.

    Anyway, it's an honor to debate with you Master taneepak xD. Thanks for your opinion, it provide me another view xD. And... why did you cut the string after 2 mths anyway...?
    Ideally, one should restring after every two to three weeks. This is because overtime stretching of the strings from so many hours of play does funny things to their elasticity. You may want to try to test the elasticity of your BG68Ti. Just get a new 12" piece of BG68Ti, stretch it to 12.25" and leave it for a few weeks, after that release the stretched string and re-measure its length. It will be longer than 12". Have you noticed the difference in the ride comfort of a car with new suspension versus one that has drive 200,000 miles with the same suspension? Strings and car suspensions have something in common.
    Now, just imagine your BG68Ti probably has about 100 multifilaments whereas another string of similar diameter has 4,000 to 5,000 microfilaments. Which string will lose elasticity faster? Micro means finer, multi less so.

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    Welll... my BG68Ti is not even reaching 2mths old xD... The Arc10 is a gift, and it's about nearly 2 months old. So does the string, it's about. I forgot the date, and since I'm sending the racket to my hometown, can't peek the date xD...

    Well... about the filaments now. I know about those theory. But, the length is based upon the length. There's even some way to calculate that, which I'm not interested xD... since I'm not really into physics T_T... I'm from IT xD... Only have the logic. And I know, if they're getting too long already, they're going to lose tension fast. It's based on the materials used too. Certain materials are going to hold out long. I believe dinkalot has reviewed a lot of those string. I forgot BG68Ti is categorized as losing tension fast or not. One thing for sure, he don't like the feeling ...

    Well, that explains the 2 months time. But, actually how fast are they losing tension? (I'm pretty confident my string will be "dead" already before the time). I heard there's someone testing string "tension hold" in this forum, and I haven't reading bout those again xD...

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