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    Quote Originally Posted by hellboy84 View Post
    Then the title of this thread should be changed to 'BAM HAS NO DIRECTION'
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    That's the correct way, they can set 1001 goals and direction but without any implementations, then i believed BAM is not going anywhere.

    Some people more focus for the own interest rather than thinking about our badminton sport.
    Where have you been? welcome back to EARTH...Only now you found out that BAM has no direction, tiada ada sistem?
    As for 'Some people more focus for the own interest rather than thinking about our badminton sport'...it is called protecting the iron rice bowl, okay make it gold plated rice bowl. When BAM is flushed with all these sponsor money giving the BAM clowns (they are still milking away in BAM today, amazing isn't it?) with more money to spend than brains, what do you expect? You really are in the dark place for too long.

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    Courtesy of NST :

    Frost asking for too much

    THE BA of Malaysia's (BAM) attempt to hire Morten Frost Hansen as the national director of coaching has been unsuccessful as the Dane's asking price is too steep.

    According to sources, Frost had demanded a monthly salary of close to RM100,000, which was twice the amount he received when working in a similar position at BAM between 1997 and 2000.

    The newly formed Capabilities, Skills and Research (CSR) committee, at a meeting on Thursday, felt it was simply not possible to employ Frost.

    The BAM is now turning its attention to former national singles coach Misbun Sidek after his name was suggested as a potential candidate during the CSR meeting chaired by BAM president Tengku Mahaleel Tengku Ariff with Lee Chong Wei also present as a players' representative.

    Misbun left BAM after tendering his resignation on Dec 31, 2010, and he rejected an offer by the association to coach the back-up shuttlers a few months later.

    Misbun has since kept a low profile but has been coaching his son, Misbun Ramdan Misbun, who also quit the national team last year.

    Misbun's return, should he agree, could also see him rekindling his relationship with Chong Wei which soured when the former quit the national team.

    Chong Wei may also reconsider his decision to retire at the end of the year as Misbun was the one who trained him in 2007-2010.

    While Misbun's coaching capability is undoubted, it would be a surprise move to get him as the director of coaching as he was reluctant to accept the position when offered in 2005.

    Meanwhile, Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong will still "amazingly survive" as a pair as they continue to have the trust of the committee who is counting on them to deliver in the Thomas Cup finals, Commonwealth and Asian Games this year. Kien Keat-Boon Heong's performance has hit rock bottom for several years and several BAM council members have been pushing for them to be broken up.



    Read more: Frost asking for too much - Badminton - New Straits Times http://www.nst.com.my/sports/badmint...#ixzz2tM5KH8Pk

    Bold part : Back to square one.

    MF may have purposely raise the asking price to disqualify himself. Btw, with the Ringgit falling, what is RM100k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nokh88 View Post
    MF may have purposely raise the asking price to disqualify himself. Btw, with the Ringgit falling, what is RM100k?
    RM100k is about 30k USD, so I don't think the price is unreasonable or anything for MF to demand.

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    Why does BAM still think that keeping KKK/TBH together will produce anything different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woffle View Post
    RM100k is about 30k USD, so I don't think the price is unreasonable or anything for MF to demand.
    That's monthly!!

    That's $360k US per year!

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    I've posted about this 'wayang' quite a few while ago. Some of BCer have some amazing trusting in BAM on getting MF. Like my previous post, again I say this is all 'wayang' from BAM to show they are 'trying' to do something but in reality is they aren't. Just another paperwork in order to save face from the public.

    On what MF asked for the salary, I have no capability nor any knowledge whether BAM could afford it or not.

    The only way I can see how BAM gonna make it thru is thru Misbun Sidek.

    There's gonna be some hideous ground rules, but that is for sake of badminton in MAS.

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    Nothing's gonna work when Politicians and Royalties are involved.

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    There a few things that spring to mind about RM 100,000.

    BAM is in such a mess (and the politics and interference), it takes a high salary to make anybody even consider the BAM job.

    MF has a high paying job at present. He needs to charge a premium to make it worth his whole to give up his present job.

    MF will know that he will lose his job in one year. So he needs to charge higher to compensate for when he is unemployed.

    MF maybe doesn't want the job but a high price saves face for BAM.

    If BAM really are willing to match the pay that much, MF knows BAM is fully committed to change. MF gets his mandate.

    Inflation and the price of Nasi Lemak has increased living costs in Malaysia so salary increase is necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    There a few things that spring to mind about RM 100,000.

    BAM is in such a mess (and the politics and interference), it takes a high salary to make anybody even consider the BAM job.

    MF has a high paying job at present. He needs to charge a premium to make it worth his whole to give up his present job.

    MF will know that he will lose his job in one year. So he needs to charge higher to compensate for when he is unemployed.

    MF maybe doesn't want the job but a high price saves face for BAM.

    If BAM really are willing to match the pay that much, MF knows BAM is fully committed to change. MF gets his mandate.

    Inflation and the price of Nasi Lemak has increased living costs in Malaysia so salary increase is necessary.
    It still hasn't answer the question : does BAM really capable of paying such salary ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3Series View Post
    It still hasn't answer the question : does BAM really capable of paying such salary ?
    Why not? BAM quite well funded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    Why not? BAM quite well funded.
    bam lost 3 million annual sponsor(maybe more) last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    bam lost 3 million annual sponsor(maybe more) last year.
    That means it's nothing much right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by limsy View Post
    bam lost 3 million annual sponsor(maybe more) last year.
    Frost costs 1.2million per year. Enploy him, turn around BAM and the sponsors will be back. Get back the sponsorship and BAM get just under 2million, more if Frost does even better than expected. Looks like the maths work out for BAM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woffle View Post
    Why does BAM still think that keeping KKK/TBH together will produce anything different?
    They know it would be nothing different. However, the two have stagnated. Let's say they get split? Who will be the partners? Will they drag down the new partners instead of bringing up new players? This is the dilemma now created by keeping them together so long for multiple 'one last chance'. The time to experiment was after the Olympics. Now, there is no time left to experiment. So BAM are stuck with a dysfunctional pairing that and the two players are totally demoralised.

    Note: this should be in the KKK/TBH thread.
    Last edited by Cheung; 02-15-2014 at 07:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M3Series View Post
    That means it's nothing much right ?
    if i remember correctly,bam yearly operating cost around rm20million.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheung View Post
    Frost costs 1.2million per year. Enploy him, turn around BAM and the sponsors will be back. Get back the sponsorship and BAM get just under 2million, more if Frost does even better than expected. Looks like the maths work out for BAM.
    if nadzmi still around,he will spend rm 1.2 million bring his buddies to shopping
    not sure how TAM will do~~~he is too soft

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    heard the news that BAM (including Datuk LCW) wish to call back Misbun and his son after failed to make deals with Morten Frost's conditions...

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    http://www.thestar.com.my/Sport/Badm...W-Hire-Misbun/

    Hire Misbun? But he prefers coaching to be head honcho.

    Head coach? Problem is BAM had them and let them go before...

    http://www.nst.com.my/sports/badmint...avour-1.485197

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